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Ancient, Pre-Maori stone temple in New Zealand

Ancient, Pre-Maori stone temple in New Zealand

 

This archaeological (or geological) zone is located near the center of the North Island in New Zealand.  The Kaimanawa Stone structure is constructed of rectangular rhyolite stone blocks that were hauled from a considerable distance.  An amusing part of this short documentary is when an official spokesman for New Zealand’s current government grinned as he told the reporter that the stone structure is obviously natural.  He neglected to mention that there are no rhyolite deposits in that part of New Zealand. 

Rhyolite is an igneous rock produced by a special type of lava. Rhyolite volcanoes are too violent and short-lived to build up a cone. Deposits often exist as intrusions within larger deposits of granite or basalt.  It is a very common “basement” rock in several parts of Eastern North America, including Georgia and northern Florida. It appears on the surface in ancient volcanic areas of northern Georgia, especially southeast of Brasstown Bald Mountain and in the Yonah Mountain Range.  Rhyolite boulders were used for several of the ancient stone structures in the Nacoochee Valley, especially on Yonah Mountain, Aleck Mountain, Chimneytop Mountain and Sautee Ridge.   The Yonah Mountain stone ruins will be discussed in more detail in a forthcoming article in the People of One Fire.

This documentary left out three important facts, which are particularly significant to People of One Fire Researchers.  The stone masonry is very similar to the earliest, extremely precise, stone structures in Peru,  which were also often carved from rhyolite.  Many of the “medicine wheels” in the Province of Alberta are composed of rhyolite field stones.   Thirdly,  the original shrine at Stonehenge, England was composed of rhyolite boulders that were originally mined over a hundred miles away in Wales.

There is also a possibility that the rhyolite “mound” in New Zealand is the remnant of a lava fissure, which pushed up through the more common volcanic stone in that area.  However, there are no other such domes within about 10 miles of this site.

You can make up your own mind after watching this video.

 

 

 

 

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Richard Thornton is a professional architect, city planner, author and museum exhibit designer-builder. He is today considered one of the nation’s leading experts on the Southeastern Indians. However, that was not always the case. While at Georgia Tech Richard was the first winner of the Barrett Fellowship, which enabled him to study Mesoamerican architecture and culture in Mexico under the auspices of the Institutio Nacional de Antropoligia e Historia. Dr. Roman Piňa-Chan, the famous archaeologist and director of the Museo Nacional de Antropologia, was his fellowship coordinator. For decades afterward, he lectured at universities and professional societies around the Southeast on Mesoamerican architecture, while knowing very little about his own Creek heritage. Then he was hired to carry out projects for the Muscogee-Creek Nation in Oklahoma. The rest is history. Richard is the Tribal Historic Preservation Officer for the KVWETV (Coweta) Creek Tribe and a member of the Perdido Bay Creek Tribe. In 2009 he was the architect for Oklahoma’s Trail of Tears Memorial at Council Oak Park in Tulsa. He is the president of the Apalache Foundation, which is sponsoring research into the advanced indigenous societies of the Lower Southeast.

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  1. theoldlibrary19@yahoo.co.uk'

    Thank you for this information about Rhyolite Richard. I collect rocks and minerals and have a small piece of Rhyolite so I can add your description with my display. I don’t know where my piece came from though. Have you any ideas how I can tell ?

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    • My understanding is that geologists can place a piece of your rock in a magnetospectrometer and determine its origin. There is rhyolite on some of the volcanic islands around Crete, but also in Wales and Ireland. My guess it that yours is from near Crete.

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      • theoldlibrary19@yahoo.co.uk'

        Thank you Richard, for your reply. I will go to the shop I bought it from here in Crete because your guess sound like it might be correct.

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  2. urisahatu@yahoo.com'

    Richard T., Yet again a very interesting article post. The title of the article is daring since there seems to be no real dating on the site or at least there is no scientific data about the particular site. On the other hand, would researchers ever tell the truth?
    There are many mysteries that are waiting to be unravelled.

    Here are a couple of questions for you: Do you happen to know what DNA ;meaning Y-DNA or mtDNA; showed up as Polynesian in your and your cousins DNA test chart?
    1. If your Y-DNA is Polynesian it should show up as C-P33; if your mtDNA is Polynesian ;Maori in particular; it should either show up as B4a1a1c, B4a1a1a3 or B4a1a1a5.

    There are a couple possibilities regarding the Polynesian-like mtDNA in southeastern North America. It is possible that a mutation of mtDNA B4a1a1a2 (Malagasy motif) entered southeast North America via the Colonial slave trade. Another possibility is a mutation of mtDNA B4a1a1 (directly?) from a possible Lapita Cultured people who seemingly once lived in MesoAmerica in the Oaxaca, Zoque and Tamate region and eventually migrated to southeast North America.
    If your mtDNA is more directly linked to a (mtDNA B4a1a1) Lapita cultured people it could mean the mtDNA in southeastern North America evolved into a separate and specific mutation which is neither directly related to the Malagasy motif or Maori motif.

    2. Do you think the Indus Valley people migrated to New Zealand prior to the arrival of the Maori (Polynesians) and build the wall?

    3. If the Indus Valley people mixed with Polynesian-like people do you think they mixed with:
    a. Malagasy people from Madagascar during their migration through the Indian Ocean
    b. Lapita Cultured people in MesoAmerica after their migration through the Atlantic Ocean, Caribbean Sea and Gulf of Mexico
    c. Polynesians (Maori?) during their migration through the Pacific Ocean (from either Meso-/Central or South America to New Zealand)
    d. Polynesians (Maori?) after the Polynesian arrival in New Zealand
    ———

    The so-called Polynesian motif is more commonly known as Haplogroup mtDNA B4a1a1 while the so called Polynesian motif Y-DNA (chromosome) which is C-P33 is less or not talked about.

    To get a better understanding on the Polynesian Y-DNA one has to find it’s origin.

    Quotes (from wikipedia Haplogroup C-M130):
    “C-M38 (C1b2a; previously C2), among some local populations within Indonesia, Melanesia (especially New Guinea), Micronesia, and some islands of Polynesia, C-M38 has become the modal haplogroup, probably due to severe founder effects and genetic drift.”

    “C-P33 (C1b2a1a): found at high frequencies among Polynesian males.”

    Quotes (from wikipedia Haplogroup C-B477):
    “Haplogroup C-B477 also known as Haplogroup C1b2 is a Y-chromosome haplogroup. It is one of two primary branches of Haplogroup C1b, one of the descendants of Haplogroup C1.”

    “It is distributed in high frequency in Indigenous Australians, Papuan people, Melanesian people and Polynesian people.”

    A Polynesian Motif on the Y Chromosome – Population Structure in Remote Oceania – October 2007 – Murray P Cox, Tatiana M Karafet
    Quotes:
    “Not all Polynesian men carry the P33 marker, but Polynesian ancestry is strongly indicated in those who do.”

    “Given its Polynesian specificity, the P33 mutation probably arose just before, or during, the reagion’s initial settlement. Archeological remains of a founding Polynesian settlement at Nukuleke, Tonga, were radiocarbon dated to about 2,900 years B.P. cal. (Burley and Dickinson 2001).”

    “A relative paucity of C M208* (xP33) suggests that the marker may have developed not long before P33.”

    “Expanding Austronesian speaking populations probably assimilated M208 individuals (Green 1991, 2003) as they moved eastward along New Guinea’s northern coast about 3,500 years B.P. (Spriggs 2003).”

    Unexpected NRY Chromosome Variation in Northern Island Melanesia – June 5, 2006 – Laura Scheinfeldt, Françoise Friedlaender, Tatyana Karafet
    Quotes:
    “Lineage C2-M38*(xM208) Besides the unique Aboriginal Australian lineage shown in table 1, there are separate branches of C that are native to Near Oceania. Although C2-M38* has been identified as far west as Borneo, its major concentration appears to be in eastern Indonesia and coastal New Guinea. The 17 C2-M38* samples identified in our series were primarily found in New Ireland (and in the Tolai, who migrated from southern New Ireland to East New Britain). One north Bougainville Teop (Oceanic) was also C2-M38*.”

    “Lineage C2b-M208 This subdivision of C has been particularly interesting because it was found in high frequencies in the highlands of West Papua and in 23 of 28 typed Cook Islanders (Kayser et al. 2003). As a result, it was taken as evidence for the Melanesian (New Guinea) origin of most Polynesian males (Kayser et al. 2000, 2003). Surprisingly, only 14 C2b-M208 samples were found in our series, 7 of which were from the Sepik region of New Guinea. All but one of the remainder from our Island Melanesian series was from Oceanic-speaking groups.”
    ———

    Although Y-DNA C-P33 is an indicator for Polynesian paternal ancestry, Y-DNA C-M38 and Y-DNA C-M208 are it’s ancestors which are mainly found in Papua New Guinea and Melanesia.

    Y-DNA Polynesian relatedness:
    C-M38 – = C1b2a (previously C2/Papua + Melanesia)
    C-M208- = C1b2a1 (Melanesia)
    C-P33 – = C1b2a1a (Polynesian motif)

    mtDNA Polynesian relatedness:
    B4a—- = Proto-Polynesian (Taiwan and/or Southern China)
    B4a1a1- = Polynesian motif (Bismarck Archipelago/Lapita Cultural Region)
    B4a1a1a2= Malagasy motif (Madagascar, Comoros Islands – off the coast of East Africa)
    B4a1a1a3= Maori motif (New Zealand)
    B4a1a1a5= ,,
    B4a1a1c = ,,

    Notes:
    – Y-DNA C-M38 has been detected in New Ireland, East New Britain and North Bougainville (these islands are in the Bismarck Archipelago); Y-DNA C-M208 is found in the highlands of West Papua and Sepik region of New Guinea (Papua) which most are in the western Lapita cultural region.
    – Y-DNA C-M208 has been detected in Samoa, Tahiti and the Cook Islands.
    – Admixture event and bi-cultural (Melanesian + Polynesian) development took place in the north/northeastern Papua and Melanesian region.

    Sources/Links:
    Unexpected NRY Chromosome Variation in Northern Island Melanesia – June 5, 2006 – Laura Scheinfeldt, Françoise Friedlaender, Tatyana Karafet
    https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/23/8/1628/967538

    A Polynesian Motif on the Y Chromosome – Population Structure in Remote Oceania – October 2007 – Murray P Cox, Tatiana M Karafet
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5372518_A_Polynesian_Motif_on_the_Y_Chromosome_Population_Structure_in_Remote_Oceania

    Y-DNA Haplogroup C-M130 (wikipedia)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_C-M130

    Y-DNA Haplogroup C-B477 (wikipedia)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_C-B477

    Haplogroup Y-DNA C migration map
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Haplogroup_C_%28Y-DNA%29_migration.png/1280px-Haplogroup_C_%28Y-DNA%29_migration.png

    Complete Mitochondrial Genome Sequencing Reveals Novel Haplotypes in a Polynesian Population – Published: April 13, 2012 – (Miles Benton, Donia Macartney-Coxson etc.)
    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0035026

    The Red-Haired giants of Peru, New Zealand and the Southern highlands – POOF article – April 9, 2017
    https://peopleofonefire.com/the-red-haired-giants-of-peru-new-zealand-and-the-southern-highlands.html

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