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DNA News – Native Americans are the descendants of mixed Asian-European offspring

DNA News – Native Americans are the descendants of mixed Asian-European offspring


The “SCIENTIFIC FACTS” of indigenous American genetics just keep changing and changing.  Exactly two years ago, the news media told the public the “FACTS” in articles about the DNA of a 12,000 year old child, found in Montana.   

“So this strongly suggests that there was a single migration of people into the Americas and these people were probably the people who eventually gave rise to Clovis. The finding contradicts a long-shot hypothesis that Clovis’ ancestors actually came from Europe, not Asia. But it leaves many other questions about Clovis unresolved.”

Source: CBS News Online

The essence of a press release, put out by one faction of anthropologists, was that this little boy’s genes were proof that all Native Americans came over the land bridge between Siberia and Alaska at the same time and that they were all the same East Asian ethnic group.  Clovis-First Faction anthropologists were still trying to prove that they were right.   

However, if one reads the more detailed articles put out by the Danish scientists, who actually analyzed his DNA (which never made it into the mass media) . . . that was not what was said.   The Danish scientists said that NO NATIVE AMERICANS today have the same genetic makeup as this little boy, but that MANY carry a significant percentage of the same genes he did.   That is the equivalent of saying that nobody in Alabama has exactly the same genetic profile as the typical Irishman, but many are part Irish.    That statement certainly is not the same as saying that the ancestors of all people in Alabama came from Ireland.

However, the same team of brilliant scientists at the University of Uppsala in Sweden and the University of Kobenhavn in Denmark have recently made an astonishing discovery.  Fortunately,   the quoted press releases came directly from them, not the “Clovis First” Faction.  In essence, they are saying that most Native Americans are the descendants of a large scale mating of Eastern European hunter gatherers and hunter-gatherers from Siberia.  Native Americans ARE NOT East Asians as the commercial DNA labs are telling their customers.  Furthermore,  the Sammi, Finnish, Hungarian, Turkish and Uzbek peoples are believed to be offspring of this same mixing . . . but at different proportions today.   These facts radically changes how DNA samples of Native American descendants should be interpreted.     Here is the article:

The Asian-European Connection

The Yamnaya Culture

The Scandinavian geneticists seemed to have forgotten that there was already identified an ancient people living in the same location, where they say the ancestors of Native Americans were spawned . . . and with the same genetic background.  They are called the Yamnaya Culture and were living at that location throughout the period between the end of the Ice Age until the end of the Neolithic Period.  The Yamnaya eventually pushed west and north until they reached the western and northern edges of Europe.  The Yamnaya seem to be the ancestors of the “Black Irish” and the aboriginal people of Scandinavia. The Black Irish and the Aboriginal Scandinavians are explained below.  Here is how a scientist in Wikipedia describes the Yamnaya:

“According to Jones et al. (2015) and Haak et al. (2015), autosomic tests indicate that the Yamnaya People were the result of admixture between two different hunter-gatherer populations: distinctive “Eastern European hunter-gatherers” with high affinity to the Mal’ta-Buret’ culture or other, closely related people from Siberia and a population of “Caucasus hunter-gatherers” who probably arrived from somewhere in the Near East, probably the Caucasus. Each of those two populations contributed about half the Yamnaya DNA.”

In other words, there was a major cultural player in Europe during the Neolithic Period, who had very similar physical features and genetic profiles to the people, who populated the Americas.  This is a game changer, because the DNA of the Yamnaya has been found in much of western and northern Europe.  A computer would not be able to determine the difference between Yamnaya DNA strands from Ireland and Yamnaya DNA strands from Mexico.

What else people are not being told

What neither the scientists nor the journalists are telling people is that no DNA labs have test markers for the majority of the tribes in the United States and South America.  This especially true for the Southeastern United States and Amazonia.  So they were generalizing for all peoples of the Americas, based on the commercially distributed DNA test markers for a relatively few large tribes in the Western United States, Mesoamerica and more densely populated areas of South America.  What both the commercial and university labs do is compare their DNA test samples to test markers that they do have.   Unfortunately, most geneticists do not seem to know that being a Chickasaw, Seminole, Creek or Uchee is an entirely different thing than being a Algonquian from Northern Quebec.   Algonquian is the most common DNA test marker being used for determining, if someone has Native American DNA from Eastern North America.  As we have repeatedly pointed out, the Muskogeans and Uchees were originally not even from North America.

Although these artifacts look like they are from the Deptford Culture in Georgia, they are actually Copper Age artifacts from Ireland.

Although these artifacts look like they are from the Deptford Culture in Georgia, they are actually contemporary Bronze Age artifacts from Ireland.

There is a similar statistical problem in Northern Europe.  Geneticists were trying to understand the origins of the main bodies of their populations, not small, isolate groups in remote locations.  The official DNA test marker for Saami was taken in a Swedish city below the Arctic Circle, where the local Lapps were so thoroughly mixed with ethnic Swedes that they had blue eyes, blond hair and light complexions.   This marker was distributed around the world.  Repeatedly it was used as “proof” that the Saami had no Asiatic heritage.  Son of a gun . . . when researchers got around to testing real Saami, they had about the same Asiatic heritage as most Native Americans in the United States.

There was similar oversights among aboriginal peoples in the highest mountains between Sweden and Norway and in the mountains of southwestern Ireland.   Their numbers were so small that when lumped with the mainstream populations, their genetic uniqueness was lost in the numbers.  It was only just recently, that geneticists began noticing possible Asiatic DNA markers among these minorities. 

As the three films from New Zealand pointed out,  the Northwest Pacific Coast tribes believe that they came by boat from Asia long after the direct connection between Siberia and Alaska was covered in water.  The Uchee have a tradition that they came by boat from across the Atlantic.  It is commonly accepted that all four waves of Indigenous Peoples living in the Arctic regions of North America and Greenland . . . the Saqqaq, Tuniq, Thule and Inuit came by boat from somewhere in Siberia.  The Inuit migrated from Siberia to Greenland in few hundred years.  They arrived in Greenland, not too long before the Scandinavians.

Over the past ten years,  POOF founding member, Ric Edwards, has repeatedly reminded people that the indigenous peoples of the Far North were able to migrate long distances over ice covered landscapes.   They were skilled at hunting and fishing in the Arctic region.  Actually, winter was when they brought in their greatest supplies of meat.  There is no reason why they couldn’t have sleded across the Arctic region in a short cut from Russia to North America. 

The fact that geneticists now realize that the mixing of Asians and Europeans occurred in Central Russia further strengthens the possibility that at least some of the ancestors of Native Americans could have migrated across the northern portions of Scandinavia to reach North America. There is also no reason why some hybrid proto-Americans couldn’t have settled in the northern realms of Europe in ancient times.

A little known fact is that the aboriginal people of Scandinavia were not Scandinavians and the aboriginal people of Ireland and Scotland were not Gaelic. They were a dark haired, bronze-skinned people with facial features very different from Indo-Europeans on the European Mainland.   During the Middle Bronze Age, the peoples of Ireland, northern Scotland and Southern Scandinavia made cord-marked, beaker shaped pottery.  That same style pottery is called Deptford Phase or Culture in the United States.  It first appeared in present day Savannah on the Atlantic Coast then spread outward across much of the Southeast.

Until the late 1800s, the Härjedalen or Heart of the Valleys Lapps lived in cone shaped huts in the summer months that were identical to the Bronze Age houses of Southern Sweden AND the houses of the Adena People in the Eastern United States.

Until the late 1800s, the Härjedalen or Heart of the Valley Lapps lived in cone shaped huts in the summer months that were identical to the Bronze Age houses of Southern Sweden AND the houses of the Adena People in the Eastern United States.

Around 1200 AD, a massive storm or tsunami wiped out the heart of a Bronze Age civilization in Denmark and Skåne (southern tip of Sweden).  Thereafter, Germanic tribes began to gradually filter northward into Scandinavia.  However, the Northern Germans did not truly conquer all the coastal regions of Scandinavia until the Iron Age. 

The timing of the natural catastrophe in Southern Scandinavia and perhaps also in the British Isles,  exactly precedes the appearance of the Deptford Culture in Savannah.  The Deptford Culture pottery was virtually identical to the Corded Bell Beaker Ware of Ireland and Pre-Germanic Southern Scandinavia.

Mixed-blood remnants of the aboriginal population still live in the highest mountains between Norway and Sweden.  They are called Gamla Folk or “Ancient People.”  The remnant mixed-blood population above the Arctic Circle are called Saami or Lapps.   Most Scandinavians assumed that I was a Saami, until they heard my Swedish.  LOL

The petroglyphs from that Bronze Age civilization still could be seen on the boulders of Ven Island, between Denmark and Skåne, where I worked on the design of a pedestrian village.  Those petroglyphs are identical to the ones seen on boulders in North Georgia. 

Nearby Landskrona was ringed with mounds, built over log tombs that were identical to the burial mounds of the Adena People.  The Adena People appeared in the  central Eastern United States almost immediately after the great storm that devastated Denmark.  Keep in mind that we are not talking about the ancestors of modern Europeans having a similar culture to the Adena, but an indigenous Northern European people, with a genetic heritage very similar to Native Americans.  There is a big difference.

dark_hair_irelandThe Great Irish Flood,  the Uchee and Poverty Point

There was a horrific flood in Ireland and the British Isles around 2345 BC caused by 20 years of non-stop rain.  Much of Ireland other than in the high Southwest Mountains was depopulated. Most of its bronze-skinned aboriginal population never returned.  Their mixed-blood descendants live today along the western edge of Ireland . . . particularly in County Carry, where there are petroglyphs, identical to those in North Georgia.  You probably know the people on the western edge of Ireland by another name . . . the Black Irish.  On the American frontier, Black Irish families were often accused of being “part Injun” even if they had no Native ancestors.  This accusation may be the source of many families that think that they are “part Cherokee,” but turn out to have no Native American DNA . . . or do they?   If Native Americans started out being half Caucasian, then identifying their differences with cousins, who went to Ireland becomes a monumental task.

catherine-zeta-jonesAccording to Irish tradition, the surviving Ciarraighe (Dark Brown People) in the mountains were pushed to the western edge of the island by invading Gaels, who were armed with iron weapons.  This occurred at the end of the Bronze Age or around 5-400 BC.  Many fled Ireland by boat, but no one knows where they settled.  Perhaps some fled to Wales or else they already had relatives there.  Welsh actress, Catherine Zeta-Jones, had no problem convincing the audience that she was a Mexican Mestizo senorita in the movie “The Mask of Zorro.”

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As can be appreciated in the photo on the right, the facial features of the mixed-blood Ciarraighe  today are remarkably similar to that of full blooded Uchee.  Few people in County Kerry today have bronze complexions, despite their ethnic name.  There has been 2,500 years of intermarriage with the Gaels. However, their lassies often end up winners in beauty pageants. The same thing can be said for Black Irish families, who immigrated across the Atlantic and married Native Americans!

The sophisticated Scara Brae Culture of the Orkney Island and northern tip of Scotland disappeared about the time  that the great flood devastated Ireland.   At present, the ethnic identity of this Antediluvian population is unknown.   However, there is something very interesting about the small stone artifacts they created such as fishing net weights and stones for heating water for cooking in baskets.   Identical artifacts can be found at Poverty Point, Louisiana.

cherInexplicable linguistics . . . Dubious DNA tests

Why would this lovely lass from County Kerry,   a Uchee in 18th century Savannah and a Muskogee Creek in Ocmulgee, Oklahoma use the same word for water, when speaking in their mother tongue?*   There are probably quite a few other shared words, but most of the Pre-Gaelic words in Ireland have been lost and there is still no complete Uchee dictionary.   The enigma is impossible to explain within the current orthodoxy of North America’s past.  Obviously,  the peopling of the Americas was quite a bit more complicated than scholars have long assumed.

* Ue . . . the Uchee, Muskogee-Creek and Pre-Gaelic word for water was also used on the Atlantic Coast of France  by the sea-faring peoples there.  It is the origin of the modern French word for water, eau.

Then we come to the question of the accuracy of commercial tests.  If there are no DNA test markers for any of the Southeastern tribes and it turns out that Native Americans share common ancestors with many of the peoples from Northwest Europe, who settled the United States and Canada,  how can one possibly obtain an accurate description of one’s heritage? 

The situation gets even more complicated with the Cherokees, because they are NOT the principal and original people of the Americas as they claim.  They are an assimilation of many peoples from both the New and Old World . . .  especially Semites, Iberians, Anatolians and Armenians. What makes it really complicated is that the Eastern Anatolians and Armenians are ALSO descended from the Yamanaya Culture.  That’s why, after her big pop hit, “Half Breed,”  everybody thought Cher Bono Allman was a bonified Cherokee, when she really was an Armenian.


It’s a genetic jungle out there, folks!


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Richard Thornton is a professional architect, city planner, author and museum exhibit designer-builder. He is today considered one of the nation’s leading experts on the Southeastern Indians. However, that was not always the case. While at Georgia Tech Richard was the first winner of the Barrett Fellowship, which enabled him to study Mesoamerican architecture and culture in Mexico under the auspices of the Institutio Nacional de Antropoligia e Historia. Dr. Roman Piňa-Chan, the famous archaeologist and director of the Museo Nacional de Antropologia, was his fellowship coordinator. For decades afterward, he lectured at universities and professional societies around the Southeast on Mesoamerican architecture, while knowing very little about his own Creek heritage. Then he was hired to carry out projects for the Muscogee-Creek Nation in Oklahoma. The rest is history. Richard is the Tribal Historic Preservation Officer for the KVWETV (Coweta) Creek Tribe and a member of the Perdido Bay Creek Tribe. In 2009 he was the architect for Oklahoma’s Trail of Tears Memorial at Council Oak Park in Tulsa. He is the president of the Apalache Foundation, which is sponsoring research into the advanced indigenous societies of the Lower Southeast.



    Another way to state this is that paleoindians migrated to Beringia and supra-glacial North America before the Asiatic phenotype had fully differentiated from the Europoid/steppe caucasian phenotype.

    • That’s a good way of putting it. I am not an expert on genetics, but I am having a problem with the geneticists, who assume that populations evolved their current genetic profiles in the same location where they are now.


    It really doesn’t make sense that geneticists assume populations evolve from the same locations. Wars, trade, exploration…when it comes right down to it, we’re all one race. The human race.

    As an American whose ancestors came over in the 1700s, I think it’s amazing I have not a drop of Native American DNA. Or do I? This article makes me wonder. But what I do have makes no sense whatsoever because my DNA supposedly matches many, many dark-skinned populations and I’m whiter than your granny’s panties. DNA is wierd.


    Native Americans ARE NOT the mixed offspring of Asians and Europeans! Give me a break! Native Americans are not Asian, only the Eskimo and Aleuts and Na Dine in the Northern part of America have Siberian/Asian DNA and the South and Northern American’s are their own race that are not closely related at all to anyone. Native Americans are also not descended from Europeans because there were no Europeans 25,000 years ago when the Natives founded their lands. Europeans are only 4,000years old, and came out of Asia. Europeans are closer to Asians than any Native American people.

    • There is a high probability that the scientists at the University of Kobenhavn and Max Plank Institute know a little more about the subject than either of us. However, I do know that pretty much the same people genetically have been living in Britain since the Ice Age. Gaelic people did not move into Ireland, though, until the end of the Bronze Age. the aboriginal people of Ireland had black hair, dark eyes, non-Caucasian faces and bronze skin. Also, we are finding that the closest relatives of the Uchee Indians of Georgia are the Saami of Lappland in North Scandinavia. I am mixed Scandinavian-Creek-Maya-Uchee. When I was living in Sweden, most Scandinavians thought I was a Saami (Lapp).


      Also The Native Americans are not a mixture of Asians aNd Europeans. Especially not Eastetn European hunter gathers , both Native Americans and Europeans are descendants of a older population called Ancient Notth Eurasian (ANE) . The ancestors of Azick-1 are the lineal ancestors of all 80 percent of Native Americans, with the Eskimos, Aleuts, and Na Dene being the 20% and closely related.


    This is new to me which gives me more reason to continue family ancestry research after getting my dna results which turned up a unique odd mix from Virginia family and did include Native American dna


    And I’ve got ocean front property in Arizona. I was just reading the dna of the Lakota and they don’t have any Siberian or Asian dna hmmm


    I do believe Native Americans are some kind of old Eurasian mix and possible precursors to some Europeans. I know quite a few people with quite a bit of Native American ancestry who just pass as white people. You would have to know their family members and history to understand they are not just white people. However, American racists who literally judge people based on skin color and hair texture can’t tell their ass from their elbow and often look quite ignorant and cruel to those of us with a little more knowledge. Just let them believe they all just came directly from Asian people. I even know some people of Native American/European descent who have convinced themselves they are Asian rather than what they are. Maybe these deniers are the generational offspring of these self-hating people. It wouldn’t surprise me.


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