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Duhare story interfaces with Scott Wolter’s Knights Templar research

For over 470 years scholars ignored the eyewitness accounts of a European colony on the South Atlantic Coast, named Duhare, because these people milked dairy deer and made cheese.   No one bothered to find out that the Irish DID have dairy deer and that there were multiple accounts of these deer-milking Irishmen leaving Ireland in the late 1100s and 1200s because of religious persecution.

The People of One Fire became interested in the story of Duhare because Duhare was a province of a proto-Creek kingdom, Parasicora,  (Palachicola ~Chicora) based in present day Savannah, GA.  The descendants of Duhare joined the Creek Confederacy in the early 1700s.

In our own times,  many have scoffed at the theories of such researchers as Scott Wolter (America Unearthed TV series) who believe that Christian Norse explorers traversed over parts of New England and the Midwest, plus a century later some Knights Templar refugees left northwestern Europe for North America, after the order was brutally  persecuted by the Vatican.  There is a connection between the two stories.

At the end of the last segment of the series on the South Atlantic Coast, we mentioned that at exactly the same time that several monasteries recorded that Gaelic Christians were immigrating to Whitmannsland across the Atlantic Ocean, an Anglo-Norman baron, Richard de St. Clair was invading the lands of the Norse-Irish and Deer People in southeastern Ireland.   There is more to that story.

St. Clair was a former Crusader and a patron of the Knights Templar.  Many of his relatives and ancestors had been in the order.  Even more of his descendants were Knights Templar.  In the exact year, 1180 AD, that monastic journals state that a large party of Ossraigh (Deer People) and Norse Irish left Ireland for North America,  St. Clair seized a large chunk of their lands and gave it to the Templars.  He also appointed a master for the new Irish lodge of the Templars.

If that name sounds familiar, the St. Clair Family  figured heavily in the fictional plot of the movie, “The Da Vinci Code.” They were said to be the descendants of Mary Magdalene.   Also, in the last two shows of America Unearthed in early 2015, which were factual, the St. Clair family were patrons of a mysterious Templar church in France, which was filmed by the History Channel’s film crew.

The “hooked X” was a way that Templars could identify each other once their order had been suppressed by the King of France and declared heretical by the Pope.   “Hooked X’s” have been found in North America, which researchers such as Wolter believe are evidence that at least some Knights Templar came to North America.

Some St. Clairs escaped being burned at the stake by the Roman Catholic Church in France by fleeing to Scotland.  They very quickly rose to being prominent nobility in Scotland. They changed their name to Sinclair to conceal their Templar identity.  The family later built the famous Rosslyn Chapel in Scotland, which contains many Knights Templar symbols and also the rose, which is the symbol of Mary Magdalene.  Some members of the family in recent years have changed their name back to St. Clair.  Rosslyn Chapel is still owned by the St. Clair Family.

Several stone slabs have been found in the northern parts of North America, which contain Norse Runic writing.  All can be translated, but are labeled as forgeries by many academicians, even when scientific analysis proves that they date back to the Middle Ages.  The most famous of these stones is the Kensington Stone, found in Minnesota.  It translates to be a message left by Norse Christians.

Forensic Geologist Scott Wolter of Minnesota

Forensic Geologist Scott Wolter of Minnesota,  investigating the similarities of traditional Creek art with Chichen Itza. Mexican archaeologists confirmed everything that the Creeks in Georgia had been saying, plus that some Maya art suggests that the ancestors of the Creeks visited Yucatan.

Scott Wolter is a geologist, who became interested in the possibly of Medieval Norse and Templar voyages to North America, after being hired to study the Kensington Stone.   He was hired to be the host of “America Unearthed” in 2012, after appearing on a documentary about the Kensington Stone.   However, the premier of “America Unearthed” was about the evidence of contacts between the Mayas and the ancestors of the Creek Indians in Georgia.  This brought Wolter in direct contact with the researchers of the People of One Fire.  His show’s scientific proof that the Mayas mined minerals in Georgia for many centuries went a long way in giving POOF credibility.

Detractors of Wolter’s studies of the Templars and Norse voyages to North America state that there are no records of any voyages to North America by Scandinavians after around 1000 AD and no connection between the Norse and the Knights Templar.  The research by the People of One Fire concerning the settlement of Duhare by Irish refugees and Norse Irish mariners in the late 12th and 13th centuries negates those criticisms.

This newly found connection between two entirely different focuses of research again points out the need for academicians to stop hoarding their research and start communicating with each other. That is exactly why the People of One Fire was founded in 2006.

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Richard Thornton is a professional architect, city planner, author and museum exhibit designer-builder. He is today considered one of the nation’s leading experts on the Southeastern Indians. However, that was not always the case. While at Georgia Tech Richard was the first winner of the Barrett Fellowship, which enabled him to study Mesoamerican architecture and culture in Mexico under the auspices of the Institutio Nacional de Antropoligia e Historia. Dr. Roman Piňa-Chan, the famous archaeologist and director of the Museo Nacional de Antropologia, was his fellowship coordinator. For decades afterward, he lectured at universities and professional societies around the Southeast on Mesoamerican architecture, while knowing very little about his own Creek heritage. Then he was hired to carry out projects for the Muscogee-Creek Nation in Oklahoma. The rest is history. Richard is the Tribal Historic Preservation Officer for the KVWETV (Coweta) Creek Tribe and a member of the Perdido Bay Creek Tribe. In 2009 he was the architect for Oklahoma’s Trail of Tears Memorial at Council Oak Park in Tulsa. He is the president of the Apalache Foundation, which is sponsoring research into the advanced indigenous societies of the Lower Southeast.



    While I try not to bother Richard every time he makes a post I have learned so much about cultures here in America by reading both his postings to POOF and his books of which there are many. Still from time to time I do make contact with Richard to ask a question all of which have been answered.

    Living in Georgia near many of the sites and findings that Richard and others have discussed has in fact connected me with POOF in a real eye opening way. Richard has contributed to many day and overnight trips to examine for my self the evidence presented thus connecting the dots as they become available and refuting all kinds or other information.

    Thanks Richard and Merry Christmas.

    • Mvto Jay for your kind comments. Remember that any time you see something that will contribute to our understanding of the past, please feel free to write a description in the People of One Fire. Many of our most important discoveries were made possible by observations of members and subscribers, normally involved with other activities.

      Merry Christmas to you too!


    Spot on, but a minor quibble: Rosslyn Chapel is not in ruins, though like many buildings of that age preservation work is ongoing. The only link with the chapel and the word “ruins” may be due to the fact that one end of the structure was built with deliberately unfinished stones, implying an attached (but missing) additional structure, thus concealing the true objectives of the builder. But Sinclair’s original manor house, a short walk from the chapel, is in ruins, perhaps contributing to the confusion.

    • I corrected the mistake. It was in ruins when I saw it as a young man, but it has now been restored. You are correct.


    How can there be no connection between the Norse and the Knight Templars, when Henry Sinclair was holding the title of Earl of Orkney as well as King of Norway?


    Richard, it was the conquistadores (Desoto’s men) and very much a bunch of “Barbarians” the way that they treated the Native peoples of Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama…. that one Chief (Tuscalusa) had a banner like the Templars. I wonder IF there was any connections….

    By the way…the “X” is a very ancient “seafaring” symbol brought back Two.. EGYPT (Gihon) long ago.

    Numbers 13. 32

    • I don’t know. The problem is that there has been no effort by archaeologists to find Duhare, much less excavate a Duhare village. We view Duhare as an ancestral branch of the Creek Indians and therefore, very much in the realm of our research.


    Washington Irving wrote A History of the Life and Voyages of Christopher Columbus, was published in January 1828. He had access to information that is no longer available now. It mentions one of Christopher Columbus goals was to raise enough money to fund an army to retake Jerusalem. I have read elsewhere that one of Columbus relatives was involved in the Knights Templer. Could there have been a connection between the Columbus voyage and the Knights Templer? I have to admit I have not seen or read the Da Vinci Code , National Treasure or American Unearthed. So they might have already covered this. I always look forward to your posts, they are some of the most interesting emails I receive.
    Thank you, Ed

    • That is quite possible. The funding for Christopher Columbus’s voyage came from the conquest of Granada by Spanish Conquistadors (Crusaders.) Spain was soon at war with Turkey, because Turkey was trying to conquer Europe.


    Hello Richard,
    I found this article in Yahoo today. Another link in the mystery?
    Scotland….Ireland. I notice the article does not mention dairy as a product of the deer, but they were domesticated. To use them for meat, bone , etc. and not use the milk would be a waste. These people were very smart, they would have used every available food source. Maybe if they read POOF website
    it would help there research.
    Thanks for all you do.

    • The interesting thing Wayne is that the American Elk is so closely related to the European Red Deer that they can mate and produce fertile offspring. In fact, until recently elk were considered merely to be a species of Red Deer. Since the Red Deer in the Scottish islands are not closely related to western and northern European Red Deer, that leaves the possibility open that these Red Deer are actually American Elk brought by boat from North America.


    Hello Richard,
    What an interesting thought. We know that our ancestors moved plants around, why not animals? I really liked your articles on the plants from south america found in the SE. Do you know if any one is researching animal links the same way?


    Like fellow subscriber Jay Langley, I do try to restrain myself from commenting too frequently, but it’s not easy!
    As usual, the findings reported in POOF articles such as this intrigue my curiosity enough to do further research on the subject. These days, that is simply becoming too easy! A Verrazano map naming a couple clearly European sites on North America lead to some additional intrigue, and before long, I found this: Footprints of the Welsh Indians: Settlers in North America Before 1492 by William L. Traxel . While I may not agree with every claim the author makes, he has culled a tremendous amount of historical documentation from early and first hand accounts, verifying numerous trans-Atlantic sea voyages by a number of peoples, and does a thorough job of outlining their histories and migrations, before, during, and after encounters with North America. I think POOF subscribers will find this valuable. Again, thanks, Richard, and to everyone who contributes to our growing understanding.


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