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Horned serpent tradition seems to have come from Kekchi Mayas

Horned serpent tradition seems to have come from Kekchi Mayas

 

Regina Blackstock of the Nene Hatke Ceremonial Ground sent me a fascinating anthropology book this morning, which has recently been published online.  The professor, who appeared to be at the University of Mississippi, was vastly more knowledgeable about Choctaw and Creek cultural traditions  than is typical at most universities.  He had far more factual and detailed knowledge about the Muskogean peoples that high profile academicians such as Charles Hudson did.  My first impression was, “We need to get this guy involved with the People of One Fire. We have a lot to learn from each other.”

In particular, the professor was fascinated with the Creek Migration Legends and Frederick Von Reck, a German artist, who visited Savannah shortly after it was founded.  A section of his book was devoted to proving a Mesoamerican connection to the Creeks as evidenced by the Migration Legend.  He had even traveled to England to try to find the original copy of Thomas Christie’s transcript in order to prove that the Creeks had a writing system prior to the arrival of Europeans.  The book didn’t say exactly when he flew to London, but he made the rounds of all the universities and government offices, like I did for years.  Both us got nowhere.  He reluctantly concluded that the original is lost forever.   I thought, “Boy will he be surprised when I send him an email with the original Migration Legend attached!”

My dirty little secret?  After “America Unearthed” was broadcast in the UK during 2013,  I received a brief note from Clarence House that congratulated me on my discoveries and stated that the Prince of Wales’ had a lifelong interest in archaeology and history.  I wrote back a more lengthy letter, stating my admiration for the outstanding quality of the planned communities that HRH Prince Charles was personally developing throughout England and suggested that if ever got tired of being royalty, he should be an architect . . . “Oh, and by the way, could you help me find the Lost Creek Migration Legends?” . . . and by golly, he did . . . or actually, his assistant private secretary, Dr Grahame Davies, did!

Then I kept on reading and saw some strange comments that seemed as if the Trail of Tears had only occurred a few years earlier.   THE BOOK WAS WRITTEN BEFORE THE CIVIL WAR!   His English syntax was amazingly modern as were his scientific inquiries.  Yet, this book was written before there was even a profession called anthropology. 

One section particular caught my eye.   The professor stated that the horned serpent tradition of the Creeks is identical to the horned serpent tradition of the Highland Mayas.   If he had published that statement in our era, his department chair would have fired him this next morning for committing blasphemy against the god, Anthropos. 

What surprised me further is the professor’s discovery that the Muskogee word for Horned Serpent, chetto yhabbi, was very similar to the Kekchi Maya word for horned serpent, cheta k’yagobi.   The Itsate Creek words are even closer the Kekchi words, cheta k’yuabi.  The “K” symbolizes a glottal stop in Maya and Itstate Creek, so the words are actually even closer.  You will hear glottal stops in the video below.

To read the book that Regina forwarded to us, go to:   Nineteenth Century Book on Choctaws and Creeks

 

Who are the Kekchi Maya?

Note the five-sided mound in the upper left section of this site plan.

The Kekchi Maya are thriving today in the mountains of southern Guatemala, eastern Chiapas and western Belize.  They are also known as the Q’equchi’ . . . which is pronounced the same.   I strongly suspect that they are actually composed of several branches of the Mayas, who came together and began speaking the same language. 

Particularly, in eastern Chiapas, southeastern Guatemala and western Belize, the Kekchi look just like the Itsate (Hitchiti) Creeks.  I stayed in the home of a Kekchi Maya woman, who was virtually identical to my grandmother Ruby (Mahala).  Last year, a reader sent me a photo of  Kekchi man in Guatemala, who could looked very similar to me in my thirties.  Those Kekchi in south central Guatemala, look like the lady below, and are much shorter.  The sound of the language is very similar to Hitchiti and Miccosukee and not like Muskogee. 

 

The Kekchi were mound builders and still farm on terrace complexes, very similar to those in North Georgia, northwestern South Carolina and eastern Alabama.  They were the illiterate “thralls” of the Classical  Maya Period, who provided the food to support the large Maya cities in the Lowlands.  Although on several occasions catastrophic volcanic eruptions had depopulated vast sections of Kekchi and Itza countryside, the Kekchi returned and continued to expand their numbers.

As can be seen on the site plan at left,  their ancestors built both four and five-sided mounds.  Their stone architecture was pretty much limited to retaining walls for terraces and plazas, just like what we see in North Georgia.  

On this site plan, you will also see some strange geometric shapes created with field stone walls.  These same shapes are also found in the Lower Southeast.  We are not sure of their function yet.  They may have been for ritual purposes or used to channel water to individual terraces.

The Kekchi have become politically assertive in recent decades.  One of the totally unexpected results of the bloody civil wars and insurrections in Guatemala in the late 20th century is that the majority of Mayas have become Protestants.  They are getting extensive support for expanded educational opportunities from Protestant congregations and denominations in North America.  As a result they are demanding equal treatment from the Spanish descendants, who run the nation.   The Mayas now have their on public television TV networks in Guatemala, southern Mexico, Belize and Honduras.  Below is a language lesson in Kekchi on Maya TV!  Initially, she is speaking in Kekchi, then switches to Spanish, then switches back to Kekchi. 

 

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Richard Thornton is a professional architect, city planner, author and museum exhibit designer-builder. He is today considered one of the nation’s leading experts on the Southeastern Indians. However, that was not always the case. While at Georgia Tech Richard was the first winner of the Barrett Fellowship, which enabled him to study Mesoamerican architecture and culture in Mexico under the auspices of the Institutio Nacional de Antropoligia e Historia. Dr. Roman Piňa-Chan, the famous archaeologist and director of the Museo Nacional de Antropologia, was his fellowship coordinator. For decades afterward, he lectured at universities and professional societies around the Southeast on Mesoamerican architecture, while knowing very little about his own Creek heritage. Then he was hired to carry out projects for the Muscogee-Creek Nation in Oklahoma. The rest is history. Richard is the Tribal Historic Preservation Officer for the KVWETV (Coweta) Creek Tribe and a member of the Perdido Bay Creek Tribe. In 2009 he was the architect for Oklahoma’s Trail of Tears Memorial at Council Oak Park in Tulsa. He is the president of the Apalache Foundation, which is sponsoring research into the advanced indigenous societies of the Lower Southeast.

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  1. rockpilesmail@gmail.com'

    The horned creature with a jewel on its head is known from New England Archaeology. I don’t know when they used the symbol but it can be found represented in rock piles.

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  2. Most people don’t know this, but there were several large mounds, where Boston was built. Ceremonial mounds were not typical of Algonquian cultures, but by golly, there was a large town of mound builders before there was a Boston. With the discovery of endemic Mesoamerican symbols in Bronze Age Scandinavia, it is not clear what ideas originated from where . . . or if there were cultural exchanges across the Atlantic during the Bronze Age. The jury is still out and there is a lot of research needed.

    Actually, the number of stone architecture sites in North Georgia and eastern Alabama dwarfs what’s in New England . . . hundreds and hundreds of sites all the way down to the Fall Line near Macon. There were stone enclosures on all the mountaintops in the Metro Atlanta area originally and along the edge of the mountains to Chattanooga. Most became gravel for state highways in the 1920s and 1930s! There are well over a hundred cairn complexes in N GA and E AL still. So far we have counted 16 terrace complexes. Three cover over a half square mile.

    That being said, everything in the Lower Savannah River Valley predates everything else in North America, except northeastern Louisiana. Savannah has the oldest mound (c. 3555 BC), oldest pottery (c. 2450 BC), oldest shell ring villages (c. 2800 BC), oldest Clovis points, etc. Typically, such ideas as pottery spread outward from the Savannah Valley in all directions.

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  3. kkakins@gmail.com'

    So, all these relic stone walls we see on the East Coast — where do you think these originated?

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    • Really interesting photos! Those sure look like eyes to me! LOL The fieldstone serpent effigies in the Southern Highlands are on mountaintops or hilltops and portray the “Sky Serpent,” which was the principal deity of the Itzas. There were also coiled serpents in the temples with ruby eyes, but all the mountainside temples were destroyed in the initial years of the 40 year long Creek-Cherokee War. Only the Itsate Creeks worshiped the Sky Serpent. All the other branches worshiped an invisible sun goddess, with traits almost identical to YHWH among the Hebrews, before the construction of Solomon’s Temple. They did not have any effigies of deities.

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      • contact@jonathanrex.com'

        Unetlanvhi ale unetla’nunnehigi aniyvnwiya.

        There was conflict between the Suns and Serpents in the Blue Ridge region prior to the arrival of Spaniards and French. I think the Serpents were the Kituwa who erected certain mounds and sites clear up to Ohio. This conflict seems to be rooted in the Ancient Mayan serpent kings who were led by an “Owl Spearthrower” and conquered the Sun’s after invading from Guatemala and Peru prior to that. The Kituwa or original Cha’raccia’riccua (Hawks of Five Waters) had some connection to the Paracas skulls and the Plumed Serpents. One group of Apache (Chiricahua) came from them and spread northeast into Canada through the W’natchi (Natchez) up the Mississippi to Illinois and Michigan before spreading south when attacked by Iroquois.

        The Sun Worshipers in Tanasi kept bees. Called Chiaha. The Bees were a symbol of their ancient Scythian roots from the Black Sea. Their ancient culture also made its way into France with Merovingians. Emperor Napoleon had a robe covered with golden bees harking back to this. Reality was far stranger and interesting than the standard narratives.

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        • Actually, it was the people of Chiaha (means Salvia River in Itza) kept stingless Maya bees to make honey and pollinate their salvia (chia) fields. This breed of honey bee was developed by the Mayas and is indigenous to the New World. Their feral descendants live in the Southern Highlands to this day.

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          • contact@jonathanrex.com'

            Right, I just worded it odd I think. The Chiara were Tennessee. Accidentally spelled it Tanasi. But the association of bees and honey to the sun was also an Ancient Scythian thing that found its way into the Merovingian and Carolingian Dynasties of France. The Paracas skulls were Scythians from the Black Sea. Same people who Wodan came from when he traveled northwest into Slavic and Scandinavian lands and became Bogdan and Godan to Slavs and Vikings. The Slavic word Bóg and Germanic word God come from Odin, a Wodan Wizard of the Scythians. Scythians kept bees and wore gold bee jewelry.

          • Actually, last year I found the island on an old topographic map of Graham County, NC at the foot of Cheoah Mountain. You can see the mounds still, although they are mostly covered with water. Here is the URL of the article. The Tennessee location is some of the BS produced by Charles Hudson and company during the 1980s and 1990s. While I was Executive Director of the Asheville-Buncombe County Historic Resources Commission, Hudson and his buddies received large checks from the Biltmore Estate and the Asheville Chamber of Commerce to persuade him to have De Soto come through Asheville. We told the professors that the French Broad River Basin was uninhabited in the mid-1500s, when Soto and Pardo were exploring the Southeast. They ignored us and announced that Guaxule was in Asheville on the Biltmore Estate and Chiaha was on an island just inside the Tennessee Line. If anyone tries to correct the Wikipedia article on Chiaha, by mentioning that the island in Tennessee did not match at all the description of Chiaha, the text is quickly deleted by anonymous people. Here are the POOF articles: https://peopleofonefire.com/chiaha-its-probable-location-found-in-great-smoky-mountains.html https://peopleofonefire.com/satellite-image-during-2016-drought-reveals-probable-mounds-of-chiaha.html https://peopleofonefire.com/footnote-what-is-the-difference-between-chiaha-ychiaha-and-olameco.html

  4. contact@jonathanrex.com'

    Thanks. What was Tanasi originally? Wasn’t it the region now between Chattanooga and Qualla up to Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg? Those borders now had no relevance then any more than Mexico and the US border did when the Mayans were trading with the Natchez in Mississippi through the Aztecs for clay in Alabama and Georgia. That’s one possibility. Another is they simply crossed from the Yucatan to Cuba and Florida by water to trade with tribes in Florida. Those swamps back then would have made that less likely as a trade route though.

    Will definitely follow up on this though. Where was Xuala. A globe from the 1600s that I took photos of at a museum has Xuala in the mountains, Chalaqua around western South Carolina and that Guaxule around North Eastern Georgia.

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    • Tanasi is the Anglicization of the Creek ethnic name, Tainasi, which means Taino -descendants of. I have feeling that the Taino immigrates originally lived much farther south then worked their way northward in response to political events or climatic changes.

      Suale was obviously in the vicinity of Saluda, NC and Saluda, SC. Elsewhere in the United States, there same is written as Xuale. Saluda is the Anglicization of the Creek-Uchee ethnic name Suale-te, which means “Buzzard People.” They were an advanced branch of the Shawnees that formerly occupied most of northern West Virginia. Their cultural traits suggest that they were the descendants of the Hopewell Culture.

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      • contact@jonathanrex.com'

        Nice. Thanks. It is interesting that the Chalakahatha Shawnee were also called Chalaqui (the l being an r – so Charaqui). Trying to recover things and re-narrate our collective history from the fragmented narratives of foreign people who were confused and the mountains of misinformed writers since is a full time job. Too bad it doesn’t come with a salary. Ha Probably best. Then it would come with an agenda.

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        • Chalaka moved to what is now Taladega, Alabama. Soon many more Shawnees followed them from North Carolina. By the early 1800s, whites called the Shawnees in Alabama Creeks, because they were members of the Creek Confederacy. However, their culture remained quite different except that Shawnees everywhere, even in Ohio, began wearing Creek style clothing, including turbins. They no longer wore scalp locks or mohawks.

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          • contact@jonathanrex.com'

            Some of the Creeks wore scalp locks. There is a painting of Creek delegates meeting with the British colonials in Georgia, I think. Is a painting at the Smithsonian with six males, one female, and a little black kid handing the white people something. One of the Creeks had a bear cub I think. But they all had scalp locks and I’ve seen wannabe Cherokees online claiming one of them was Attakullakulla (obvious nonsense). The illustration in London from 1730 shows how Cherokee then dressed. In 1763 they were wearing completely different clothes in London. But those Creeks had scalp locks in that painting. Some Cherokee such as Sequoyah wore turban wraps also. But he was 3/4 Jewish so that may have been why.

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