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I wouldn’t have guessed this in a million years!

I wouldn’t have guessed this in a million years!

 

This is too weird!    There is no doubt about it folks.  It seems implausible, but there is a perfect match between those petroglyph boulders in Northeast Georgia and the petroglyph boulders in Southern Sweden and Denmark.  The closest match is in southwestern Sweden, where I worked, beginning two days after I graduated from Georgia Tech. 

Mikko Sapulpa

Keep in mind, we are talking about a people living in Scandinavia at the time, who would have looked very much like the famous Uchee Chief Sapulpa.  They had black hair, tan skins and some Asiatic facial features.  Their ancestors were the result of Pre-Indo-European similar to the the Basques mixing with western Asians.  Their descendants today are called the Saami or Lapps . . . although most Saami now carry some Scandinavian DNA.  This strange discovery explains why you people with Uchee and Creek ancestry are showing up with Saami, Pre-Gaelic Irish and Basque DNA markers.   Well . . . it’s game-changer for interpreting DNA.  If you’re family has been in the Southeast a long time, that Saami DNA should be considered the result of Uchee ancestors and therefore considered indigenous.

As a bonus in this POOF article, we are providing a musical background.    There was a very sweet, fresh-faced young lady from the city of  Jönköping, to the north of  Skåne, who was melting the hearts of folks in the local auditorium that summer with this song.  Her facial features with pronounced cheekbones were different than most Swedes.  Perhaps there was Lapp or Gamla Folk in her family background.  She told me that her dream was to someday sing on Broadway in New York City.  Sadly, that never happened . . . but she made the best of the frustrating situation of being from a relatively small country on the northern edge of Europe.  Hope you enjoy “Vart Ska Min Karlek Fora”  

 

Hjortspring Boat petroglyph in Southwest Sweden ~ an identical glyph, complete with sun sign, appears on the Tugaloo Rock

Detail from the Tugaloo Rock

The types of boats portrayed on the Tugaloo Rock are portrayed on Bronze Age petroglyphs in the vicinity of the Oresund Channel between the Province of Skåne (Sweden) and Sjælland (Denmark).  It is called a Hjorspring Båt, because the large boats were framed with bent wood, which functioned just like the springs in an automobile.  It enabled the open boats to traverse ocean waters.  I remember seeing them in museums in the region, where I lived . . . and thought they were cool looking . . . but never dreamed that they had any relevance to the early history of the Southeastern United States.

 

The time of their arrival is a question mark.  Around 2350 BC there was 20 years of rain that almost depopulated the lower elevations of Northwestern Europe.  Pottery appeared on the Savannah River Basin immediately thereafter. 

Around 1200 BC there were catastrophic natural disasters around Europe and the Mediterranean Basin, which destroyed many Bronze Age civilizations.  A tsunami or massive storm knocked down most of the trees in Denmark and coasted its islands with muck.  The ancient Bronze Age civilization along the Oresund Channel, where I lived, disappeared after that inundation.   The Deptford Culture, making cord-marked beaker-shaped potter like that in Bronze Age Scandinavia, appeared around the mouth of the Savannah River about that time.  

Germanic Peoples began pushing northward into Scandinavia after 1200 BC, pushing the aboriginal people northward into less hospitable environments.  The descendants of the aboriginal people can be found in the high mountains of Norway and Sweden, plus in and within Lappland.  Most of the aboriginal people just disappeared.  Traditionally,  Scandinavian anthropologists have speculated if they were killed or migrated elsewhere.  We now have a strong suspicion of where many of them went.

Keep in mind also, that archaeologist, Arthur Kelly, found a Scandinavian Bronze Age style “stone boat burial” on a ridge overlooking the Chattahoochee River  near Roswell, GA.  It is now in the Chattahoochee National Recreational Area and protected by the National Park Service.  Of course, Dr. Kelly, didn’t dare speculate about a Scandinavian origin for the burial.  

Bronze tools and weapons HAVE been found on the Georgia Coast.  However, one must travel at least 250 miles inland to reach copper deposits.  The only significant tin deposits are much farther away in northern South Carolina. It could be that by the time, subsequent generations of refugees reached the copper and tin deposits, they had forgotten how to make bronze . . . but maybe again, archaeologists may have just not found the bronze implements that they left behind.  It is a fact that all of Georgia’s petroglyph boulders are in the famous Georgia Gold Belt.

The truth is out there somewhere!

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Richard Thornton is a professional architect, city planner, author and museum exhibit designer-builder. He is today considered one of the nation’s leading experts on the Southeastern Indians. However, that was not always the case. While at Georgia Tech Richard was the first winner of the Barrett Fellowship, which enabled him to study Mesoamerican architecture and culture in Mexico under the auspices of the Institutio Nacional de Antropoligia e Historia. Dr. Roman Piňa-Chan, the famous archaeologist and director of the Museo Nacional de Antropologia, was his fellowship coordinator. For decades afterward, he lectured at universities and professional societies around the Southeast on Mesoamerican architecture, while knowing very little about his own Creek heritage. Then he was hired to carry out projects for the Muscogee-Creek Nation in Oklahoma. The rest is history. Richard is the Tribal Historic Preservation Officer for the KVWETV (Coweta) Creek Tribe and a member of the Perdido Bay Creek Tribe. In 2009 he was the architect for Oklahoma’s Trail of Tears Memorial at Council Oak Park in Tulsa. He is the president of the Apalache Foundation, which is sponsoring research into the advanced indigenous societies of the Lower Southeast.

17 Comments

  1. pres@gloriafarley.com'

    Richard, this is wonderful. These ships match many that Gloria Farley recorded. I would very much like to include this find in the book I am putting together of Gloria’s work. This is going to be a second volume. I would gladly send you a copy of the first volume if you will send me your

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  2. markveale@hotmail.com'

    Richard, A copper tomahawk is found with Ötzi “the ice man” who is carbon dated to 3300 BC. The copper of that weapon matches the copper of the area around the Great lakes (99.7 pure copper). He was found in the Alps of Europe. This seems to indicate, with your discovery of matching symbols, that the Yuchi (Uchee) and other Native peoples were involved in a copper trade from North America to Europe. The ancient Great lake copper mining began 6000 BC and ended around 800 BC. (iron age begins in Ireland) Advanced Sea faring people discovered this landmass at least 44,000 years ago science now states. Not everyone continued being sea faring peoples but perhaps the Yuchi (Uchee) continued longer than most. Some statements included in these articles:
    “Multiplex assay study was able to confirm that the Iceman’s mtDNA belongs to a previously unknown European mtDNA clade with a very limited distribution among modern data sets.” “By autosomal DNA, Ötzi is most closely related to southern Europeans, especially to geographically isolated populations like Corsicans and Sardinians.”
    “High levels of both copper particles and arsenic were found in Ötzi’s hair. This, along with Ötzi’s copper axe blade, which is 99.7% pure copper, has led scientists to speculate that Ötzi was involved in copper smelting.”
    “Copper is known to have been traded from the Great Lakes region to other parts of North America. However, there were also other sources of copper, including in the Appalachian Mountains near the Etowah Site in Alabama.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Copper_Complex
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96tzi

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    • Actually, there was a large commercial copper mine smelting operation in Copper Hill, Tennessee until a couple of decades ago. EPA regulations shut them down. There was also a large copper mine near Dahlonega until the late 20th century. It produced natural brass. The Uchee’s DNA is mostly from Europe. They have always said that the came from the HOme of the Sun across the Atlantic.

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      • markveale@hotmail.com'

        Richard, Thanks again for your articles. The area of North Florida was covered with Very large pine trees, the Apalache people knew how to create fabric with mulberry fiber, rope and i have to wonder if there was any artwork of any catamaran type ships found in the South East? That type of ship was found in St. Petersburg, FL.

        http://weedonislandpreserve.org/prehistoric-canoe.htm

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        • The people living around Lake Okechobee used catamarans. The Florida Apalachee were Southern Arawaks. I don’t why academicians started calling them Muskogeans. All but one of he Florida Apalachee village names can be translated with a Ashinanka dictionary from Peru. Apalachen is a Panoan word from Peru. So the Florida Apalachee were pretty much the same ethnic group as the Towns County Indians in the Georgia Mountains. The North Georgia Apalache were a mixture of Panoans from Peru, Muskogeans from northeastern Mexico and Itza Mayas.

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        • wakefieldrising@gmail.com'

          Mark , Richard

          The canoe found at Peavy landing( Tombigbee River) is exactly like the Florida canoe only shorter and better preserved. It now resides in the Washington County Museum in the basement of the Courthouse. Again, great work!

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    • pres@gloriafarley.com'

      Mark,

      Where are you getting the connection of the Ötzi copper with the Great Lake sources?

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      • Bart, I know nothing about the copper being from the Great Lakes. I am currently trying to find a statement on that from a geological laboratory. This I do know . . . and it is factual. The purest copper in the world is up in the Great Lakes region and the purest gold in the world is found here in the Dahlonega area. Dahlonega also has a mine that produced natural brass. Brass is a tough metal that in some ways superior to bronze.

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        • pres@gloriafarley.com'

          There have been isotope and trace element studies of both the copper and trace elements for various copper regions to see if these can be used to find the source of material for specific artifacts. I don’t know the current state of this research. Also, this only works if you take native copper and cold work it. If you heat it up to hot forge it or to smelt out impurities, the method cannot be used as you reset isotope ratios and remove trace elements.

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  3. Naneix@aol.com'

    Or I was also carrying species of mushrooms only found in the Blue Ridge mountains

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    • Naneix@aol.com'

      That should have read…Otzi

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    • markveale@hotmail.com'

      Really? Are you are kidding? what species of mushrooms is found only in the Blue Ridge mountains? Thanks

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      • naneix@aol.com'

        There was fines fomentarius and two others…. if you contact Tradd Cotter of Mushroom Mountain, he can tell you all about it in detail.

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  4. darrenkeanestorm@yahoo.com'

    I accidentally saw your article and could not tear myself away. I’m not even a fan of archeology and history, but I was really interested. Thank you!

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    • Thank you Darren. I certainly was not trying to prove any theory, but once I saw the evidence, I couldn’t deny it. What I do is follow the evidence, wherever it leads me . . . not try to prove theories. That approach has taken me to some amazing discoveries during the past seven years.

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  5. urisahatu@yahoo.com'

    Great post. The types of canoes shown on the petroglyphs pictures are really interesting.

    The past few months ‘ve been doing a separate research on the Saami, Uchee and Island Southeast Asia / Pacific canoe types.
    Believe it or not; similar canoe types can be found in Island Southeast Asia and the Pacific islands.
    Here is a link to an example of a canoe petroglyph from Rapa Nui also known as Easter Island:
    http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/easter/images/canoe2.gif
    Note: rotate the image 180° (upsidedown) and you will see a similarity with the Tugaloo and Sweden / Denmark

    Source:
    http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/easter/designs_motifs.php

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    • I wonder if these Bronze Age Copper Traders in Scandinavia went all over the world?

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