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Incredible Video: New Zealand geneticists prove same “red haired giants” lived in New Zealand and Peru

Incredible Video:  New Zealand geneticists prove same “red haired giants” lived in New Zealand and Peru


This scientific documentary was produced  for New Zealand Public Television.   It is not sensationalized drivel like you often see on American documentaries. The scenery is absolutely gorgeous.  This program is a MUST SEE and highly entertaining.  Note in the photo above that the indigenous people of New Zealand were cultivating terrace complexes long before the Maori arrived.  Early white settlers mistakenly assumed that this was the first place the Maori lived and therefore gave it the name, Maori Pa.

The tall red haired, blued eyed Caucasians lived in New Zealand before the arrival of the Maori Polynesians and were the primary allies of the Spanish, when they invaded the Inca Empire.  They were Indo-Europeans who originated in the same area of western Asia as the ancestor of the Peruvian chicken.  They became a clan among the Maori and their descendants live in New Zealand today.  The Red-haired Maori, as their are called by white New Zealanders carry the same genes as the Paracus People in Peru, who built the fieldstone effigies on the Nazca Plain.  They did not build the Nazca Lines.  By the time of the arrival of Pizzaro’s Conquistadors, the red haired Caucasians were called Chachapoya.  They had created a high civilization in the Upper Amazon Basin.

The genetic discovery was made possible by the discovery of the Chaucilla Paracas Cemetery.  DNA samples were obtained from Paracus mummies and compared to contemporary Red Maori and some early skeletons of Red Maori.

This information is directly relevant to Muskogeans.  If you recall, the original name of the elite families of the proto-Creeks was Paracusi-ti, which means Paracus People.  The high kings were up to seven feet tall.  Over all the Paracusa and Chapapoyas were not true giants, but averaged about the height of the Creek People today. 

There are many similarities between the Chaucilla Paracas mummies and those of the Copena Culture in North Alabama and the Apalache Culture of North Georgia.

There are many similarities between the Chaucilla Paracas mummies and those of the Copena Culture in North Alabama and the Apalache Culture of North Georgia.

The red haired indigenous people of New Zealand built terrace complexes long before the arrival of the Polynesians.  Apparently, they also introduced this type of agriculture to Peru.  So . . .  the Polynesians did not found the Andean Civilizations, but Indo-European people, who later lived in the South Pacific did play a major role in Native American cultural development.  The population movement was for the red haired people from South America westward, not Polynesians moving eastward. The descendants of the Paracus in the Southeast became the Wind Clan of the Creek People.

Notice the “pa” in the name Maori Pa.  It has the same meaning as “pa” in Chontal Maya and Hitchiti Creek.  The equivalent in Mvskoke-Creek is “fa.”   Obviously, the next step is to take samples of Creek DNA and compare them to Chachapoya and Red Maori DNA. 

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Richard Thornton is a professional architect, city planner, author and museum exhibit designer-builder. He is today considered one of the nation’s leading experts on the Southeastern Indians. However, that was not always the case. While at Georgia Tech Richard was the first winner of the Barrett Fellowship, which enabled him to study Mesoamerican architecture and culture in Mexico under the auspices of the Institutio Nacional de Antropoligia e Historia. Dr. Roman Piňa-Chan, the famous archaeologist and director of the Museo Nacional de Antropologia, was his fellowship coordinator. For decades afterward, he lectured at universities and professional societies around the Southeast on Mesoamerican architecture, while knowing very little about his own Creek heritage. Then he was hired to carry out projects for the Muscogee-Creek Nation in Oklahoma. The rest is history. Richard is the Tribal Historic Preservation Officer for the KVWETV (Coweta) Creek Tribe and a member of the Perdido Bay Creek Tribe. In 2009 he was the architect for Oklahoma’s Trail of Tears Memorial at Council Oak Park in Tulsa. He is the president of the Apalache Foundation, which is sponsoring research into the advanced indigenous societies of the Lower Southeast.



    Absolutely incredible documentary. The red-haired giants are also part of the oral history of other Polynesian peoples, specifically kahunas in Hawaii. They too relate the migration of peoples that literally spread across the Pacific and the Americas.

    • Thank you. I had no idea how beautiful and ecologically diverse New Zealand was.


    Lots of red-haired giant myths in Native American culture from what I understand, right? The Hopi have a legend as do the Navajo. I’m fascinated by the giant stories. Loved this post.


    Enjoyed this documentary very much.


    Thank you, Richard, for this wonderful documentary.


    This could also explain Chief Joseph’s cuneiform tablet, and the oral history of his tribe, as well as others, is proofing right – again.


    There are also stories about giants living in the Solomon Islands in Melanesia. Maybe some stories are exaggerated and made scarier to the public. Most likely as most people; everything unknown will be treated as mysterious and dangerous.
    Believe it or not; American troops in WWII even encountered these giants, yet as always there is a cover up going on.
    The natives of the Solomon islands are certain that these giants are living in the mountains.


    smithsion and new zeland musems have been getting rid of red haired giant bones and now sweden has turned over cultural heritage to a dark skin musilum with no experience. this is get whitey since mid 1800’s in usa. retired barber around reno said indian customer said red giants ate great grand father. indians trapped them in a cave and killed them.

    • Did you read POOF’s recent article on Tugaloo. The original word that Tugaloo is derived from the Archaic Irish word Togha-re, which means “Great, Best or Principal People.” Its the name of the Red Haired Giants.

      You are absolutely correct about the idiotic placement of a Pakistani, with no background in cultural preservation, as head of the Sweden’s cultural heritage board. I promise you that the Swedes are outraged. Hopefully, they will finally vote out the current idiots controlling their Riksdag after this move. The Sami, who are the indigenous people of Scandinavia, were ignored when this position was filled. They are ready to go on the war path.

      Here is the article:


    The exhumed skull of a 3,000-year-old Welshwomen. Nazi submarines. Ancient Spanish shipwrecks. The pre-Māori white civilisation theories of Noel Hilliam and his friends have a lot going for them. Except any plausible evidence, writes Scott Hamilton

    I spent part of last week at an art gallery in Manurewa, helping to put photographs on the walls. One of those photographs shows three boulders leaning against each other in a paddock encircled by the Great South Road and Auckland’s Southern Motorway. The boulders were thrown out of one of Bombay’s volcanoes millennia ago, and are now one of the small details that decorate the daily commute of tens of thousands of motorists.

    For a few New Zealanders, though, the three boulders beside the Southern Motorway are sacred relics of an ancient civilisation. They should properly be called the Bombay Obelisk, and they were brought together not by geological accident but by masons and astronomers.

    Over the past 30 years a growing a minority of New Zealanders has decided that the first inhabitants of their country had white rather than brown skin. They believe that one or more European peoples emigrated to these islands thousands of years ago, and established a populous and technologically sophisticated civilisation here. This pigmentopia was invaded and conquered by the ancestors of Māori. The warlike Polynesians slew the white men they found, took the women as wives, and appropriated the indigenes’ greenstone carvings.

    The “Bombay Obelisk” is only one of scores of supposed relics of a lost civilisation. Like the piles of rocks that can still be found on Auckland’s volcanoes, the obelisk allegedly helped ancient New Zealanders plot the movements of the stars and make abstruse mathematical calculations.

    Last week the “white tangata whenua” theory made an appearance in the mainstream media, as Mike Barrington published a lengthy and remarkably uncritical article in the Northern Advocate, an article that was republished on the website of the Advocate’s sister publication, the New Zealand Herald. Barrington reported that Noel Hilliam, a longtime believer in ancient white civilisation, had excavated two skulls and sent them to Edinburgh University, where an unnamed pathologist had examined them and decided that they had come from Wales three thousand years ago.

    Barrington’s article was quickly criticised on social media. Māori condemned Hilliam for invading their burial sites and disturbing their kōiwi; journalists asked Barrington why he had not asked a trained scholar of New Zealand’s past about Hilliam; archaeologists mocked the notion of a distinctively Welsh skull.

    University of Edinburgh pathologists denied any contact with Hilliam, and Vice published an article about a grave-robbing amateur historian from New Zealand. By the end of the week Mike Barrington’s article had disappeared from the websites of the Advocate and the Herald.

    Mike Barrington’s article may have talked nonsense about New Zealand history, but it did provide a reasonably accurate narrative of the careers of the country’s pseudo-historians. Barrington correctly named Kerry Bolton’s 1987 booklet Lords of the Soil as the first published argument for a white tangata whenua. By the time he wrote Lords of the Soil, Bolton had already helped found and run the New Zealand National Socialist Party, which folded shortly after a disastrous performance in the 1975 general election, the Nationalist Workers Party, which offered a slightly more discrete version of the same politics, and the Church of Odin, which combined the worship of Norse deities with more neo-Nazism.

    But New Zealand fascists like Kerry Bolton encountered problems their counterparts in Europe did not. Unlike the white peoples of Europe, Pākehā had not lived long in New Zealand. They were latecomers, not an indigenous people. The National Socialist and Nationalist Workers parties condemned immigration from Asia and the Pacific Islands as a threat to New Zealand identity, and warned about the dangers of miscegenation. But rhetoric about overseas invaders sounded curious, coming from the descendants of invaders.

    Bolton resolved the problem of indigenity by deciding that the first inhabitants of New Zealand had been white rather than brown. In Lords of the Soil he seized on the oral traditions of Māori who live in the central North Island, traditions which speak of an iwi called Ngāti Hotu, whose members eventually blended with those of other groups. Māori society was fluid, especially in the first centuries of life in Aotearoa, and it was not unusual for iwi to form and dissolve.

    But Bolton argued that Ngāti Hotu were not merely another Māori iwi: they were, he insisted, a different people, a “white warrior tribe”, whose ancestors had come to these islands long before Māori. After being attacked by Polynesian invaders, Ngāti Hotu had retreated inland, and made a last stand in the mountains near Lake Taupo. Although Ngāti Hotu had died out, their ancient presence in New Zealand foreshadowed and legitimised the colonisation of the country in the 19th century. When he raised the Union Jack in 1840, Hobson was retaking New Zealand for what Bolton calls “the Europoid race”.

    Neo-nazis were not the only Pākehā troubled by questions of identity in 1987. For most of the 20th century European Kiwis had liked to congratulate themselves on their country’s race relations. After the wars and land disputes of the 19th century Māori had, they believed, been assimilated to Pākehā society. Any guilt at the conquests of the 19th century could be assuaged by reference to the Moriori, the Melanesian autochthons of New Zealand whom Māori had chased from Aotearoa to the Chatham Islands and then exterminated.

    But the marches and occupations of the 1970s and 80s showed that Māori had not become brown-skinned Pakeha, and by the second half of the 80s the Moriori people had, with the help of Michael King, begun to emerge from the obscurity of myth and insist that they were the Polynesian indigenes of the Chatham Islands, not the descendants of the first inhabitants of the rest of New Zealand. Deprived of their myths of racial harmony and Māori conquest, and upset by the return of land to Māori and the increasing visibility of Māori culture, some Pākehā found the notion of a white tangata whenua beguiling.


    In the late 1980s and 90s a number of pseudo-historians took up Bolton’s ideas, and promoted them via self-published books and pamphlets and, later, over the internet. In the early 90s, Martin Doutre, a former Mormon missionary turned self-proclaimed “astro-archaeologist”, began to roam New Zealand in search of ancient observatories like the Bombay Obelisk. Using an infinitely malleable unit of measurement known as the “geomancer’s mile” and other ideas snatched from the pseudo-science of ley lines, Doutre discovered correspondences between the observatories of Auckland and sites like Stonehenge. He also claimed to have found, amidst the kauri trees of Northland’s Waipoua Forest, a vast and ancient stone city. Doutre’s published a book and website called Ancient Celtic New Zealand to advance his claims.

    Like Bolton and Doutre, Noel Hilliam had no training in any academic discipline. He was a farmer with a long-time interest in old shipwrecks who became convinced that white peoples had settled New Zealand long before Māori. Hilliam became a volunteer curator at Dargaville’s maritime museum, and began to display archaic Māori carvings there that he claimed belonged to pre-Māori peoples. In a series of articles and a book, he claimed that Phoenician, Greek, Spanish, and Welsh had inhabited ancient New Zealand.

    Hilliam has made other remarkable claims over the years. In 1982 he said he had found the remains of an old Spanish ship on a beach near Dargaville, but the wreck vanished before he could show it to anybody. In 2008 he told Radio New Zealand that he had found a Nazi submarine off the Northland coast. The submarine had supposedly left Germany in the last days of the Third Reich, loaded with gold. Hilliam never made good on his promise to reveal the location of the submarine wreck.

    The notion of a white tangata whenua promised to relieve Pākehā of their status as latecomers to New Zealand, and to counter Māori talk of historical injustice. But the theory had, and still has, a problem: a complete lack of evidence.

    The aquatechnology of ancient Europe would have made a journey even halfway to New Zealand impossible. Noel Hilliam claims the ancient Greeks sailed all the way to these islands, but they struggled to circumnavigate Britain. The ancient Celts crossed the English channel and the Irish Sea, but lacked the ships and the navigational knowledge to get further. Even the Vikings had to island-hop their way to America through the Arctic North Atlantic. The Azores archipelago sits in the Atlantic less than 1500 kilometres from Portugal, yet it was not reached by Europeans until the 14th century. Columbus’s crossing of the Atlantic at the end of the 15th century was far less exacting than a journey to distant New Zealand would have been.

    Any large-scale settlement of these islands would have been accompanied by the destruction of forest by fires, and scientists can discover the date at which this sort of destruction began by testing pollen spores preserved in the sediment of lakes. Tests do not indicate any man-made destruction of the forests began until less than 1,000 years ago.

    If large numbers of European people lived here thousands of years ago, then archaeologists and builders ought to be finding their skeletons, as well as burial items which reflect a European material culture, like swords and coins. But the oldest skeletons and burial items dug up in New Zealand are distinctively Polynesian, and are less than a thousand years old. No human skeletons or artefacts have been found beneath the layers of ash left by the massive Taupo eruption that occurred about 1,800 years ago.

    In recent years a series of scholars have run DNA tests on Māori, in an effort to trace their ancestry. These tests confirm that Māori are a Polynesian people, and that Polynesians have their origins in coastal Asia thousands of years ago. There is no genetic evidence for ancient contact between Polynesians and Europeans.

    The believers in an ancient white civilisation are undeterred by the lack of evidence for their claims. They insist that a conspiracy of Māori leaders, politically correct academics, cowardly Pākehā politicians and sinister international organisations is working to conceal and destroy the physical legacy of New Zealand’s first inhabitants. They claim that the stone city in Waipoua forest has been closed to visitors by Department of Conservation staff and local Māori. Elsewhere teams of explosives experts are blowing up the stone houses of the first New Zealanders and sealing burial caves. Ancient European bones and artefacts are being quietly removed from museums, and roads are being built through the sites of Celtic observatories.

    In the 1990s Pākehā resistance to Māori land claims and the public visibility of Māori culture became increasingly associated with the notion of a white tangata whenua. In Northland an organisation called the One New Zealand Foundation had been founded to oppose the return of land to Māori and to campaign against concessions to Māori culture like the kōhanga reo movement. Members of One New Zealand wrote long letters to newspapers and members of parliament to warn about the “Māori takeover” of New Zealand. Bolton, Doutre, and Hilliam were all drawn into the Foundation’s work. They claimed, in polemic after polemic, that if only the existence of an ancient white civilisation were acknowledged, then the ‘Treaty industry” and the Māori grievances it was founded upon would disappear.


    In the 21st century the notion of a white tangata whenua and the movement against Māori land claims and culture has found new leaders and outlets. Advertiser John Ansell, whose controversial “Kiwi versus Iwi” billboards helped take Don Brash to the edge of victory in the general election of 2005, has been an influential recruit to the cause.

    After Don Brash became the leader of the Act Party in 2011 Ansell followed him, and designed a new set of provocative advertisements for that year’s election campaign. But Ansell left Act in disgust when the party toned down the rhetoric of the ads, and refused to use the word “Māorification” in them. After branding Act’s leaders “white cowards” Ansell discovered a new mentor in Martin Doutre. Together they set up a campaign called Treatygate, which was designed to alert Pākehā to the dangers of “Māorification”. The Treatygate website featured frequent tributes to Doutre, and Ansell liked to quote the author of Ancient Celtic New Zealand during the campaign meetings he held in provincial North Island towns. Ansell’s campaign helped to inspire a new political party called 1Law4All, which contested the 2014 general election.

    Every movement needs a hero, and for the believers in a white tangata whenua Allan Titford came to fill that role. In 1986 Titford bought a farm near Waipoua forest, and upset the local Te Roroa iwi by bulldozing archaeological sites on the property. Titford wanted to subdivide his farm, and sell it off; Te Roroa pointed out that the land was part of a claim they were bringing to the Waitangi Tribunal. In 1992 Titford’s farmhouse was gutted by a suspicious fire; newspapers around the country ran a photograph of Allan standing in the ruins with his wife and their youngest child. Titford blamed Ngati Roroa for the blaze, saying the iwi wanted to chase him off his land.

    The One New Zealand Foundation took up Titford’s case, and the farmer began to join Martin Doutre and Noel Hilliam in their expeditions in search of lost civilisations. After sustained lobbying by Titford and his supporters, Jim Bolger’s National government passed legislation that forbade the state from compulsorily acquiring land to use in Treaty settlements. Titford willingly sold his farm for three and a quarter million dollars in 1996, but continued to claim he had been forced from his property by “Māori gangsters” and a cowardly government. John Ansell used Titford as a cautionary tale, and the 1Law4All Party put him on its website.

    In November 2013, though, Allan Titford was found guilty of arson and rape and sentenced to 24 years in jail. The Whangarei district court found that Titford had burned down his own house, and had kept his wife as a sex slave for years. In the aftermath of Titford’s conviction, Māori Television’s Native Affairs produced a two-part report called What Lies Beneath, which exposed the links between the notion of a white tangata whenua and the political campaigning of groups like the One New Zealand Foundation.

    But Titford is still a hero for the likes of Noel Hilliam, Martin Doutre, and John Ansell. In an angry online statement, Doutre dismissed the case against his friend as another conspiracy intended to keep New Zealanders from understanding the history of their country. John Ansell devoted a series of posts at his Treatygate website to protesting Titford’s innocence.

    The photograph of the Bombay Obelisk was taken by Ian Powell, and is part of an exhibition of images and artefacts from the Great South Road at the Nathan Homestead gallery. Powell is a veteran cinematographer and photographer, and his black and white images have a gentle probity. Martin Doutre’s photographs of his “obelisk” tend to remove it from its surroundings, and make it appear impressively tall and wide. Powell, though, took several long steps backwards, and photographed the object in its context. Instead of the monument of a lost civilisation Powell gives us a few stones on a low hill. The “obelisk” is scarcely more impressive than the telephone poles that stride down a grassy slope toward a shard of motorway.

    Powell’s photograph has a pathos that reminds me of Laurence Aberhart’s portraits of the decaying halls and churches of New Zealand’s countryside.

    Like the colonial architects who gave mock pillars and miniature gothic spires to their modest wooden buildings, the believers in a white tangata whenua are desperate to see Europe in New Zealand. But colonial replicas of the Old World only emphasise the colonial’s distance from that world. Whether they are gothic chapels or standing stones, the replicas of Europe are as sad and fragile as the diorama villages of museums. The fantasy of a white tangata whenua is the work of Europeans marooned a long way from Europe.

    • Our family has both Creek and Uchee ancestry. The interesting thing is that we carry a wee bit of Maori DNA test markers. Figure that one out. LOL



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