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Radical change in understanding of Indigenous American DNA

Radical change in understanding of Indigenous American DNA


From Smithsonian Magazine . . .

State of the art genetic analysis of a child, living in Alaska during the Late Ice Age, plus discovery of a horse bone altered by humans 22,000 years ago in Canada has radically changed the understanding of Indigenous American genetic history.  Geneticists now believe that the ancestors of most indigenous Americans, except the Inuit, became genetically separated from their Siberian cousins around 36,000 years ago. 

Now how do two large populations become separated unless one of them was on another continent during the last Ice Age?  This is a question that People of One Fire co-founder, Ric Edwards, has asked for over a decade.  He thinks that indigenous Americans are truly indigenous to the Americas and are the result of mixing of certain peoples in the New World.  He is even considering the possibility that these Siberian cousins followed animals such as horses and camels as they migrated from the Americas to Asia . . . not vice versa.

POOF readers should be reminded that there are no DNA test markers for the indigenous peoples of the Southeastern United States and those for the Caribbean are highly questionable.  There seems to be little interest in the Southeast toward the genetic analysis of indigenous skeletal material.  Well . . . most of the indigenous human remains from Dixie are stored in cardboard boxes in either institutions in the Northeast or in a secret warehouse owned by the TVA. 

To read the article go to:   Paleolithic Americans

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Richard Thornton is a professional architect, city planner, author and museum exhibit designer-builder. He is today considered one of the nation’s leading experts on the Southeastern Indians. However, that was not always the case. While at Georgia Tech Richard was the first winner of the Barrett Fellowship, which enabled him to study Mesoamerican architecture and culture in Mexico under the auspices of the Institutio Nacional de Antropoligia e Historia. Dr. Roman Piňa-Chan, the famous archaeologist and director of the Museo Nacional de Antropologia, was his fellowship coordinator. For decades afterward, he lectured at universities and professional societies around the Southeast on Mesoamerican architecture, while knowing very little about his own Creek heritage. Then he was hired to carry out projects for the Muscogee-Creek Nation in Oklahoma. The rest is history. Richard is the Tribal Historic Preservation Officer for the KVWETV (Coweta) Creek Tribe and a member of the Perdido Bay Creek Tribe. In 2009 he was the architect for Oklahoma’s Trail of Tears Memorial at Council Oak Park in Tulsa. He is the president of the Apalache Foundation, which is sponsoring research into the advanced indigenous societies of the Lower Southeast.



    Good report. But it is not like a bunch of ignorant amateurs haven’t been saying this for a long time.


    Richard, There have been many migrations of man going to and fro on this Earth. The Peruvian Wari and Guatemalan Itza peoples seem to have many cultural connections with the Paracusis / Apalache peoples: ( great road builders, advanced textiles, making stone terraces, building temples associated with Venus) but I have not yet found any artwork of the helmet style worn by the Wari in South Eastern artwork. I have found it in Chichen Itza and Tollan (Tula). This might be because the followers of a king of Tula Kukulcan (987 AD) marched to Chichen Itza and convinced many of that city’s peoples to stop human sacrifice to the Maya rain god Chaac, leave the Yucatan and move to East: Georgia. Chichen Itza is now believed to have been mostly deserted by 1000 AD. All the Mesoamerican “Chaac mool” statues have a Wari style helmet. You mentioned a Native lore of Feathered serpent boats on the Chattahoochee river? This could have been the mass arrival of the Kukulcan followers (900’s AD). Thank for the articles.


      Richard, the Peabody Museum at Harvard sponsored an “expedition” in 1871 by the Rev. E.O. Dunning, a Presbyterian minister, to several mound sites in East Tennessee and N.E. Georgia. The Right Reverend explored the Brakebill mound, Fain’s Island mound, and the Lick Creek mound (40GN2) in my area. The Peabody lists several crania and bones in its possesion from the Lick Creek mound in Greene County, TN. This is the same mound that, in 1863, was described to the Smithsonian as having large, sturdy bones, larger in statue than present day men. You can be sure that no DNA studies have been conducted on these bones! Ministers and bookkeepers who were friends of friends were exploring indigenous mounds! Not reconstruction after the war, but deconstruction.

      • Now THAT is interesting. I have never heard of those early digs. Obviously, the people doing the digging were glorified grave robbers.


    Agree in part with Ric Edwards, seems rather clear to me that some genetic markers began in South America. Evidence of this is in Blood Types. I’ve noted this but have never seen anybody else point it out:

    In Africa the O Blood Type is about 80-90%. In Europe it is significantly lower with a higher rate of A and B mixed in. A Blood Type has its highest rates in Nordic regions while B is more common in Central Eurasia. Asians have A and B mixed in as do North American Natives. North American Natives are about the same rate of O Blood as Africans (80-90%). But South American Natives are the only people on earth with 100% O Blood Type.

    Most geneticists claim A Blood Type came first, then O, then B. I’m no expert on this but this doesn’t make sense to me logically. If A was the original then A should be able to donate to O and B. But this is not the case. O can donate to A and B but A nor B can donate to O. This indicates that O is the original, unless I’m mistaken. An original blood type would be able to donate to two mutations off of it but they couldn’t donate to the original.

    If South American Natives came from Africa like they claim everybody did and migrated through Eurasia with A and B being already spread out in those regions then Natives of South America should have picked up the A and B Blood Types. It is illogical to think only O Blood Types would have survived in South America.

    We know that the wild horses were actually Native to North America but had a mass extinction in the Americas at the exact same time as the Mammoths – approximately 12,000 years ago. There is no way Natives killed off all the wild horses and the manmoths simultaneously so there musta been some sort of major climate change due to a natural disaster – perhaps a Canadian impact of a comet. Such a disaster would wipe out the wild horses and mammoths of North America and effect the entire land mass with only South Americans in remote regions surviving and reproducing. Eurasia would have been affected as a smaller scale with Siberia and Asia being similar to North America.

    From 12,000 onward Natives of the Americas would be set back in cultural development by about 2,000 years from the rest of the world recovering from this natural global disaster. Gobekli Tepi of modern day Turkey seems to have appeared around this period, a reorganizing and cultural seeding by some priests who survived and began reorganizing hunter-gatherers. In South America they began cultivating maize and the wild potato around 10,000 years ago. Almost like a global reset. Why would Asians look so unlike Europeans on the same land mass? Unless Asians are descendants of Ancient Native Americans who migrated into the Americas around 30,000 years ago with wild horses and mammoths and got separated after the disaster with the ice wall between Siberia and Alaska, then they began moving back into the Americas as that wall receded.

    Just some thoughts. Could be mistaken.


      Isn’t “records” by some earlier explorers of mammoths still around?

      • I don’t know. For years the pro and against the “Clovis First” theory have been playing dirty football . . . particularly the Pro Group, when they saw the evidence piling up that the Clovis Point makers were not the first humans in the Americas. The archaeologists, who excavated the Topper Site on the Savannah River in South Carolina were crucified by their peers for many years because they found pre-Clovis artifacts and the oldest known Clovis points. There are no Clovis points in Alaska or Siberia. If the first Clovis points were along the Savannah River, then obviously the Clovis people didn’t bring their technology from Siberia over a land bridge.


    Girl is from ” previously Unknown population” but the earliest known population??? & “this population is related to everyone else” How many contradistinctions is that ?? & we just have to get use to writer not knowing what “Unique” means. Tho if the 1st point is accurate, okay, but the next 2 destroys “unique”


    over 70 years ago Harold Gladwin posited numerous migrations of various types of peoples to the americas – a free copy of his book “Men Out of Asia” is available at (see chap. 18 for dr. fuddyduddy’s rebuttal). – there is very little paleontological/archeological evidence for anything. – how much of the Earth’s surface has actually been investigated for such evidence? i wouldn’t be surprised if it was only 0.0001%


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