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Timeline . . . The evolving facts of the “Olmec” Civilization

Timeline . . . The evolving facts of the “Olmec” Civilization


Throughout the latter half of the 20th century students were taught that the Olmecs suddenly created the first advanced culture in the Americas in a region that only recently had been occupied by hunter-gatherers.  All concepts of public architecture and town planning emanated from the Olmecs to the remainder of the Americas.  I was also taught in Mexico that maize (Indian corn) was first domesticated around 2500 BC in the Tehuacan Valley of Puebla State (not the same place as Teotihuacan) near the border with the states of Oaxaca and Veracruz. The Tehuacan Valley farmers had eventually migrated eastward past Orizaba Volcano and then down into the Tropical Lowlands of Vera Cruz and Tabasco to create the Olmec Civilization.  These “facts” are what I was taught in the United States and in Mexico. I stated these inaccurate facts on my Barrett Fellowship Thesis and got an “A.”

The Chontal, Tamau-te (Trade People) or Putan Maya were never mentioned to me by Dr. Román Piña-Chan. No one told me that they were the direct descendants of the Olmec Civilization or that they were the master mariners of the Mesoamerican world.  The Tama-te originated in the islands in the tidal marshes near Villahermosa and seemed to have called themselves the Tamaute or Tamaule, since those words pop up as a place name and indigenous word in the Southeastern United States. Tamaulipas (a Mexican State) means “Trade People – place of” in the Chontal Maya language.  Their name is spelled today in Spanish as Tamulte. 

I visited some of these islands where the Chontal Mayas once lived for a day, because I was curious as to why they looked so much like the region on the coast of Georgia and southern South Carolina.  There were many mounds and some shell middens, but absolutely no evidence of archaeological studies in the past.  I didn’t see any mention of the Chontal Mayas in the Villahermosa Archaeological Museum . . . just the Olmecs and the Mayas.   I assumed that the mounds I saw were not significant because the Mexican archaeologists thought them not significant at that time, so I didn’t photograph them. 

A Tama-te or Chontal Maya town around 1000 AD.

How important were the Tama-te?   The Altamaha River in Georgia and the towns of Tamatla in North Carolina and Tamasee in South Carolina get their names from the Tama-te. The Spanish derived the name, Timucua, from a tribe on the Altamaha River, named the Tamakoa.  Ironically, they moved to Northeast Georgia (Commerce, GA) to get away from the Spaniards.  The Tamau-te also introduced to the ancestors of the Creeks the Green Corn Festival, Summer Solstice-based calendar,  corn on the cob,  grits and tamales, plus several dances. The Potano People of NE Florida and SE Georgia were also obviously descendants of the Putan Maya.

La Venta – There was not much there, when I visited, but a PEMEX plant and a few huts.  I notice that the swamp near the ruins has been drained.

La Venta just looked like “Indian mounds” surrounded by maritime forests and swamps, when I visited there.

Chronology of investigations into the Olmec Civilization

1880s through the 1920s: European and some amateur Mexican archaeologists poked around in the mounds of Tabasco and southern Vera Cruz.  They found few trophy artifacts, which could be shipped to museums or to wealthy donors in Europe.  The Europeans lost interest in the region and labeled it a tertiary culture on the frontier of the Maya Civilization.   Pioneer professional archaeologist, Alfonso Caso, thought differently and continued to dig deeper.

1929 through 1947:  Caso began finding “Olmec” artifacts underneath artifacts that had been created in Maya cities to the east.  Mathew Stirling arrived in the region in 1929 from California and continued to excavate Olmec sites periodically until 1946.  He took credit for excavating 10 Olmec heads, but most had been originally noted on a map by Caso.  By the mid-1930s,  Caso was labeling the Olmec sites, La Madre Cultura . . .  the first civilization in the Americas.  However, Caso’s work was little known outside of Mexico.  In general, people in the United States were contemptuous of anyone in Latin America and gave little credence to anything said by Latin American scholars.  

Mathew and Marion Stirling were highly competent archaeologists, who were also excellent administrators and skilled filmmakers. She started out as his secretary at the Smithsonian Institute, while going to college, but in fact, was the person who actually first translated the Olmec calendar system. In 1942,  they attended a conference in Mexico City in which Caso presented his discoveries at the Olmec sites and also his theory that the Olmecs were the “mother civilization” of the Americas.  Caso’s evidence convinced Stirling 

Marion Stirling at the Tres Zapotes Olmec site

In particular,  Stirling’s performance in the Smithsonian Institute’s film, Exploring Hidden Mexico (1943) which documented his excavations at La Venta and Cerro de las Mesas, cemented his reputation in the United States as the “discoverer” of the Olmec Civilization.  He presented Caso’s theory that the Olmecs were the first American civilization, as his own.  From then on, his premier reputation was set.   Although Alfonso Caso, Ignacio Bernal and Román Piña-Chan were famous in Europe, particularly in France and Spain, people in the United States did not even realize that there was such a thing as Mexican archaeologists until the 1960s.  That is when the Mexican government began publishing lavishly illustrated English translations of their books in order to attract tourists from the United States and Canada.




OMG Moment!   I just discovered in her obituary that I knew the widow of Archaeologist Mathew Stirling, when I lived in Virginia.   She had remarried and then went by the name of Marion Pugh.  She and her new husband lived in the 1770 Pugh Stone House, just down the road from our 1770 Tipton heavy timber frame farmhouse.   I did some architecture work for one of her daughters, who had just returned from a project in Tasmania.

1947 through 1968 – Radiocarbon dating:  Most of the excavations done at the major Olmec sites occurred before the invention of radio-carbon dating in 1947 or at least before its widespread application in the late 1950s.   Thus, orthodoxies created by Alfonso Caso, Mathew Stirling,  Ignacio Bernal and Román Piña-Chan remained in publication long after a new generation of archaeologists “knew better.”   At least by 1968,  the INAH knew that the Olmecs did not create the Olmec Civilization.  The Zoque and Tamaulte claimed to be its descendants, but this was not publicized.  Indeed,  the Olmec Civilization could not even be called a civilization until around 700 BC and they had been telling people that it “mysteriously collapsed” around 500 BC.  

Keep in mind that this “civilization” did not even have pottery until around 900 BC.  The “Olmec” writing and calendar systems had appeared after the civilization supposedly “collapsed” and when several Maya cities were thriving.  The then earliest known calendar date, translated by Marion Stirling,  was 31 BC.  However, the evidence is increasing that two of the most important Maya cities, Izapa and El Mirador did not even speak a Maya language, but rather an early form of Itza, more akin to the Panoan languages in Peru, mixed with Totonac words.  Nevertheless, books and documentary films continued to churn out the impression that the great cultural achievements of the “Olmecs” occurred around 1200 BC.    I found websites this morning that gave that date or even 1300 BC as the time of the apogee of Olmec Civilization.

TV documentaries on the Olmec and Maya civilizations treat them as separate entities and always begin with the question, “Why did they collapse?”  I have to admit that my thesis contained these same questions, because I was young and assumed that just because an educational authority figure said something, it was true.  We now know that a natural event, probably a volcanic eruption caused a stark population drop in the eastern portion of the Olmec Culture, but actually the Maya Culture was merely a continuation of the Olmec Culture. During this period, no one called themselves either Olmec or Maya!   For many centuries the “Olmec” or “Maya Civilization” were composed of distinct ethnic groups, speaking dozens of languages and dialects. 

There was a further cultural divide between southern Mexico and Yucatan, which was created around 200 AD, when armies from Teotihuacan suddenly swept through the region.  The elite of Teotihuacan were Proto-Totonacs.  Cultures in southern Mexico absorbed many Totonac words and cultural traditions, which were ultimately became the “Mississippian Culture” of the present day Southeastern United States. Ironically, the first manifestations of the Mississippian Culture were in southern Florida and central Georgia.  It would be more appropriate to label these advanced provinces in the Southeast, an extension of Mesoamerican and Amazonian Cultures.

1968 through 2006 – Stagnation:  There was a general attitude in this period among archaeologists that they knew all there was to know about the Olmec Civilization. Meanwhile, archaeological research exploded in the conventional Maya regions.  Many universities in the United States established ongoing archaeological digs, botanical studies and geospatial analysis projects near or at the ruins of known Maya cities as a means of providing their anthropology professors something to do and to attract anthropology students.   Because of the general decline in jobs requiring an anthropology degree, increasingly fewer students saw anthropology as a viable career path.

Books, published in Mexico after around 1990, no longer claimed that the Olmec Civilization was the oldest in the Americas.  Too many, much earlier radiocarbon dates had been obtained for city sites in Peru. Now the civilization in the Amazon Basin has been found to be much older than the Olmec Civilization.  

1998 through 2006 – The Cascajal Block:  Construction workers at the village of Lomas de Tacamichapan, Vera Cruz, encountered a band of potsherds and an engraved stone block. Archaeologists Carmen Rodriguez and Ponciano Ortiz of INAH examined and registered it with government historical authorities.  The glyphs on the block eventually came to the attention of anthropologists in the United States. It weighs about 11.5 kg (25 lb) and measures 36 cm × 21 cm × 13 cm. Details of the find were published by researchers in the 15 September 2006 issue of the journal Science.  The authors of the article could not translate the glyphs, but described it as an artifact from around 900 BC and proof that the “Olmecs” had a unique writing system, prior to the introduction of a system similar to that of the Mayas around 100 AD.

The article was immediately supported by some archaeologists and bitterly attacked by many others.  The two principal complaints was that the stone slab was not originally found by archaeologists and that the writing system was very different than others in Mesoamerica.  Several years of academic bickering have reduced the significance of the artifact to that of a curiosity.  It is seldom discussed anymore.

I immediately became interested in the slab because it contained many symbols that are found in the Proto-Creek writing system or else artifacts unearthed by archaeologist Warren K. Moorehead at Etowah Mounds in 1925.  Both the Cascajal Block glyphs and the Creek system consist of clustered symbols, assembled horizontally.   Mesoamerican writing systems were typically organized vertically.  Also,  symbols that the proponents described as “abstract blobs” were obviously symbols of political positions found on the art of Etowah Mounds. Little more can be said about either the “Olmec” or “Creek” writing systems until we can obtain more examples.

Chontal Maya – Douglas T. Peck: That we even know about the Chontal Maya today is directly due to the research of Douglas T. Peck (1918-2014).  Doug was an avid seafarer in Bradenton, FL, who in retirement became the world’s leading expert on the Chontal Maya.  He really didn’t know much about the Mesoamerican civilizations, the Southeastern Indians or the languages that all these peoples spoke. There are some glaring inaccuracies in his books on the Mayas and Florida Indians that he wrote for local publishers in Florida. However, he was an expert mariner and navigator, who made four trans-Atlantic voyages in a sailboat to study the voyages of Columbus and Juan Ponce de Leon.  He obviously spent many years of study in the 1990s to accumulate all available eye-witness descriptions and sketches from the Spanish Colonial Archives.  It was Peck, who discovered that there was a two degree error in all Spanish and Italian navigation equipment in the late 1400s and 1500s.  Thus, the latitudes described by Verrazano, Francisco Gordillo (the location of Chicora) and  Lucas Vázquez de Ayllón (location of first Spanish colony on mainland)  should be moved south two degrees.  This information has been accepted as fact by several national historical societies,  but NOT found its way to the anthropology profession.

I first communicated with Doug Peck in 2007.  Founding POOF member, anthropologist Deborah Clifton, had discovered that the indigenous name for the section of the Gulf Coast between Mobile and Apalachicola Bays was written Amichel in Spanish, but was actually Am Ixchel . . . Place of the Goddess Ixchel in Chontal Maya.   I remembered that Am Ixchel was also the name of Tampico Bay in Tamaulipas and a the northern tip of the Yucatan Peninsula.   Peck read this information in one of our early People of One Fire newsletters and contacted me.  He was working on a book on the Goddess Ixchel.   She was the “patron saint” of the Chontal Maya mariners.  They would construct crescent shaped mounds in her honor, wherever they established a trading station.  Peck soon sent me all of his archival information on Chontal Maya boats, which enabled me to create virtual reality models and images of them.

The Chontal Maya still remain a little known entity among Gringo anthropologists, but Peck’s writings had a major impact on the INAH in Mexico. Around 2002, Mexican archaeologists began excavating Chontal Maya ports from Tamaulipas to Yucatan.  They even published a Chontal Maya dictionary, which has many shared words with the Creek languages.

Chontal Maya Seacraft ~ it was constructed exactly like a Viking longboat.

2009 – origin of maize (Indian corn): A team of botanists from the United States and Mexico finally found the parent plant for maize in the  the Xihuatoxtla Rock Shelter, overlooking the Balsas River in Guerrero State, Mexico.  Once thought to be a cultivar of the arid Mexican highlands, molecular data now indicate that maize was domesticated a single time and that a subspecies of teosinte classified as Zea mays ssp. parviglumis . . . native to the tropical Central Balsas River Valley. . . is its wild ancestor.  The radiocarbon date for this primitive corn was astounding . . . 8,700 years BP.   It was a single mutation that was altered over the many thousands of years.  Maize was NOT domesticated in the arid highlands near the Olmec Heartland a thousand years before the rise of the Olmec Civilization rose, as I was taught in school. Maize was originally a tropical plant that was later adopted to arid highland climates.

Pottery was being made in the region, where the aboriginal corn was discovered as early as 2000 BC. That’s about 500 years later than Georgia, but a thousand years before pottery appeared on the eastern side of the Mexican mountains. However, such things as the construction of mounds and planned towns occurred much earlier in the Olmec country than on than in the western coastal plain of Mexico.

2015 through Present time – the Kashite and Miccosukee Migration Legends:  Both of these migration legends clearly begin in the region where the Kashite and Miccosukee originally lived.  Kashete is the Itsate Creek word for the English words, “Kusa People.”  We are never told what the original name of this people was.  They came from a region originally occupied by very tall Toltec tribes, who were terribly persecuted by the Aztecs after they resisted invading Aztec armies.  The Toltecs, like the Upper Creeks, were extremely tall . . . but just outnumbered by the swarms of Nahuatl peoples pouring southward from northern Mexico.  They were called the Tekesta by their neighbors.  This is the same name as a tribe in southeastern Florida, but may or may not be the same people.  We do know that the bison calf velum given to Jame Oglethorpe by High King Chikili, portrayed the Kashite writing system.   The Paracusa-te elite of the Apalache-Creeks in northern Georgia and the Satile in Southeast Georgia were also extremely tall (up to 7 feet).  It is quite possible that the Toltecas and these super-sized peoples in the Southeast and Peru, originated from the same ethnic group eons in the past.

The original and complete version of the Kashete Migration Legend, which I discovered at Lambath Palace in 2015, clearly points to southwestern Vera Cruz as the origin of the Kashete or Cusseta Creeks.  They originally lived in caves and rock shelters on the slopes of the Orizaba Volcano. After leaving their caves and moving downstream on the Bloody River, now known as the Yamapo or Jamapo River.  They were taught how to grow corn by a more advanced people – presumably the creators of the Olmec Civilization.   Some time later, an invading people began persecuting them and sacrificing many of their children to their gods.  At this point they fled the region along a Great White Path (Maya word for highway) that paralleled the Gulf of Mexico all the way to the Mississippi River.  The refugees lived for awhile along the Mississippi River then migrated eastward until they reached eastern Tennessee.  Later on, during a severe drought, they followed the Little Tennessee River into the North Carolina Mountains then migrated southward to the most southerly line of the Blue Ridge Mountains in Georgia.

The Miccosukee Migration Legend also speaks of persecution of the Soque or Zoque people by invaders, but begins in the coastal marshes of Tobasco.  Their legend specifically states that they were the descendants of a great civilization, which preceded the Maya Civilization. The Soque followed the Great White Path northward, gathering up other tribes as they went, until they reached what is now Northeast Georgia.

There is very little information online about the region where the Kashete originated.  The Aztecs did a thorough job of obliterating the Tekesta villages and massacring their population.  I did find some archaeological evidence to back up the Kashete Migration Legend in southeastern Tennessee.  During the Middle Mississippian Period a large town on Hiwassee Island with cultural characteristics like the people of Etula (Etowah Mounds) was sacked and burned.  The people who settled there afterward made a style of pottery, which is unusual for the Southeast.  It is called Hiwassee Island Red On Buff ware.   This style pottery is identical to that which was made by the Tolteca peoples in the mountains that border southern Vera Cruz and Oaxaca, particularly in the region around the Orizaba Volcano.

The Truth is out there somewhere!


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Richard Thornton is a professional architect, city planner, author and museum exhibit designer-builder. He is today considered one of the nation’s leading experts on the Southeastern Indians. However, that was not always the case. While at Georgia Tech Richard was the first winner of the Barrett Fellowship, which enabled him to study Mesoamerican architecture and culture in Mexico under the auspices of the Institutio Nacional de Antropoligia e Historia. Dr. Roman Piňa-Chan, the famous archaeologist and director of the Museo Nacional de Antropologia, was his fellowship coordinator. For decades afterward, he lectured at universities and professional societies around the Southeast on Mesoamerican architecture, while knowing very little about his own Creek heritage. Then he was hired to carry out projects for the Muscogee-Creek Nation in Oklahoma. The rest is history. Richard is the Tribal Historic Preservation Officer for the KVWETV (Coweta) Creek Tribe and a member of the Perdido Bay Creek Tribe. In 2009 he was the architect for Oklahoma’s Trail of Tears Memorial at Council Oak Park in Tulsa. He is the president of the Apalache Foundation, which is sponsoring research into the advanced indigenous societies of the Lower Southeast.



    Richard, Another Great article!!! You are years ahead of the Universities. When do you think that Toltec’s people (Tekesta) made it to Tenn.? “Maize was originally a tropical plant that was later adopted to arid highland climates.” indicates that a people that had lived in a Tropical environment brought that plant there.

    • According to the Kashete Migration Legend, they were the last branch of the Creek Confederacy to arrive in the Southeast. My guess is that they arrived around 1350 AD or later. They were a vassal of the Kusa province, which established its first village in NW Georgia around 1300 AD. There was a radical change in the Hiwassee and Little Tennessee River Basins of North Carolina around 1400 AD. The newcomers built rectangular Mesoamerican type houses, but North Carolina archaeologists are now calling them Cherokees, because they are paid to do so.


        Richard, I have always believed the Mesoamerica cities expanded into some areas of the first it seems it was the other way around? The lore of the Toltecs is they arrived in boats to Mexico and the same for the so called Olmecs. Some of the Toltecs do seem to have survived in Arkansas and then some moved into Tennessee. An interesting find that the trade (Tama) people created boats exactly like the Viking long boats. Makes me wonder how long ago the (Allmany) Visigoths arrived in Georgia. They could have been one of the Sea peoples that attacked Egypt around 1200 BC. (same feathered head gear as the Toltecs?)

        • It was the people who founded the Olmec Civilization who arrived by boat.We are not realy surfe of their name.


            It is curious that the Issa (Catawba) wore head gear like the Toltec’s….perhaps some connection?

          • Keep in mind that the real Kataapa (Catabaw) was a tribe located between the mountains and present day Atlanta. They were also the elite of a predominantly Siouan tribe, the Issa, in South Carolina. If you don’t believe me, look at the 1755 John Mitchell Map! The real Katawpa ended up on the Lower Chattahoochee River as a branch of the Creek Confederacy.


    It is a consonant vowel syllabary.
    Each symbol is a compound letter made up of more than one syllable using simple representations for a syllable.
    Each cluster is a complete sentence, with subject, verb, object.
    Some vowels have two forms, such as A and Ä, whose shape is written slightly differently, like a box vs a circle.
    It reads left to right, top to bottom.
    Symbols read left to right, top to bottom, outer to inner.
    Stand alone symbols are either names or headings or complete sentences, like Stop!
    I don’t see any numbers, which would be dots and horizontal lines clustered together, so it is not an inventory list.
    A similar system is the writing from Elam circa 2000 bc. And a script found in Crete circa 1700 BC. Both scripts written in Finnish.
    If the same script, then the two short horizontal lines is SA. The open circle is ME. The box is O. The V is KA.
    Using Finnish rules for writing, thousand of words are written with a single syllable, in which case, a single compound letter can be an entire sentence.


    The boat reminds me of Polynesian craft–large versions, with outriggers, crossed the Pacific. Some think they may have even made to the NewWorld–in any case, the northern journey from Tahiti to Hawaii, which was at one time a trade route, was difficult from a navigational point of view. But they did it, and it seems to be a universal mindset that these older civilizations were somehow less capable than our own, incapable of long distance travel and whatnot. Finding evidence to the contrary seems to shock people. Thank you for your observations!


    Richard T., The so-called Olmec civilization continues to be a mystery. Sometimes it’s difficult to separate fact from fiction.
    POOF members/readers are lucky to have you to clear things up and provide them with important information.

    In other articles/posts you mentioned Oaxaca in combination with Australoids or Australo-Melanesians.
    Could it be that some of the descendants of those Australoids/Australo-Melanesians left some genetic traces (DNA) in some of the Muskogee-Creek natives?
    Maybe it is indirect proof that Australo-Melanesian, Polynesian people reached southeast North America which explains the Australo-Melanesian, Polynesian words in some of the Chotaw and Creek languages and dialects.

    Quotes ( Ancient DNA link connects Australians, South Americans):
    “Dr Reich and his colleagues have also identified Australoid genetic motifs in the indigenous Mixe people of the eastern Highlands of Mexico’s Oaxaca state.”

    “They are not suggesting that the Amazonian and Oaxaca are the direct descendants of Australoids; rather, they suggest that later Amerindians colonists interbred with the descendants of an earlier wave Australoid colonists they have dubbed “Population Y”.

    When you look at the facial features of BIA Administrator Kelly Harjo and compare it with the discription of the Viking Saga mentioned by Mark in the Article/Post “African, Jewish, Spanish, Portuguese and Armenian villages were erased from the Southern Appalachian landscape” one can imagine the Vikings could have came across Muskogee-Creek people.
    Quote (The Discovery Of America By The Northmen, In the Tenth Century, With Notices Of The Early Settlements Of The Irish In The Western Hemisphere ; page 95):
    “These people were black, and ill favoured, and had coarse hair on the head; they had large eyes and broad cheeks.”
    The Vikings colonized the eastcoast of North America roughly between 900AD and 1400AD from north to south. Seemingly they encountered these so-called “black” people somewhere in the south. To make things clear, I do not know if the Creek territory reached the eastcoast prior to 1500AD yet when looking on a map of the “five civilized tribes” the Creeks territory reaches from the Mexican Gulf in the south(-west) to the Atlantic Ocean on the east.
    If the Muskogee-Creeks with features like Kelly Harjo (possibly mixed Australoid/Australo-Melanesian genes of the Oaxaca Mexico type) lived on the eastcoast (Atlantic Ocean side) in pre-Columbian times they would be a good candidate to be the black people the Vikings encountered.

    Are the Muskogee Creeks, the descendants of the Olmec Civilization? – June 17, 2016

    African, Jewish, Spanish, Portuguese and Armenian villages were erased from the Southern Appalachian landscape – August 21, 2018 – Richard Thorton

    The Discovery Of America By The Northmen, In the Tenth Century, With Notices Of The Early Settlements Of The Irish In The Western Hemisphere (1841) by North Ludlow Beamish

    Ancient DNA link connects Australians, South Americans – July 22, 2015 – Graeme O’Neill

    The Five Civilized Tribes Map

    • I have not heard of Australoid DNA showing up in Creeks, but my family has significant Maori Polynesian DNA trace markers . . . I assume from Mexico, but perhaps from our Apalache (the real Apalache) heritage.


        Richard, Do you think there is a chance of finding mixed Australoid/Australo-Melanesian genetic motif (DNA) of the Oaxaca type ;which Dr Reich and his colleagues have found in some natives in Oaxaca Mexico; in southeastern North American natives once more DNA samples are analyzed?

        • Absolutely! I suspect that they will be located in the more remote mountainous regions of Oaxaca and Guerrero States.


    Best thing to do would be to disperse current Faculty of Anthropology members to Religious Studies and Creative Writing.

    Take the savings and hire Richard to head up your new ‘Alternative Anthropology” initiative for the ridiculously cheap price of $500,000 per year.

    With Beringia and Clovis in flames from that pesky C14 and genetic research, the Academic Institution that moves first to science based Anthropology will be the big winner. There are only going to be so many lifeboats… Save yourselves now! Lol!

    • I would have no clue how to use that much money. LOL


        And there you have it! … CONFIRMATION that he is still currently available!

        If you are currently a grad student and have accidentally found yourself here at POOF while doing a routine search, you probably already know that the clock is ticking. Before the cropolite DNA hits the fan you need to act. Don’t waste your time by taking your concerns to your Department Head or the other ‘ignorant savages’ in the Faculty, you will only be wasting your time. Contact the President with your concerns directly before the guy sitting next to you does. A tenured faculty position and your very own espresso machine awaits you!

        Richard is currently open to accepting offers from the following list of Colleges and Universities.

        • That will be the day. During the six years that I lived near Dahlonega, I was never on the University of North Georgia campus, but their campus cops spent the entire time trying to prove that I was a predator of college coeds . . . even put a tracking device on my Explorer. Then about three years ago, a professor in Criminal Justice started using me as the target for classes in being a detective. Since I had no money to do anything, the only place that they could plant coeds as decoys was at the “bargain price” grocery store I shopped at a couple of times a month. I still can’t figure out what that was going to accomplish. What possibly could I have in common with little teenyboppers, who spend their waking hours text messaging? I don’t even own a cellular phone.


            OK. Scratch colleges and universities.

            I guess it’s down to private institutions or the speaking circuit then. If anyone is looking for someone who’s well written, well spoken and so controversial that the cops would go to the extent of doing to the above described deeds… well… Here’s your man! LOL.

            You must remember this one…

          • Here is why I have been declared an enemy of the Fourth Reich. Years ago, was playing rock albums with Jimmy Carter and his offspring at their home. A young Senator Joe Biden showed up without warning and was invited to join the party. Jimmy introduced me to Joe as a future governor of Georgia and maybe even president someday. A technical error was made back in 2008, in which the oligarchs, who actually choose the president got me mixed up with Barrack Obama. We both were born on August 4th. The oligarchs were supposed to choose an Native American born on August 4th, but instead turned in the name of an African American born on August 4th. LOL Just kidding. Actually, I have never been interested in politics . . . especially partisan politics. However, the cops are afrid that I might change my mind.

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