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Tohkare (Tokahle) People – Youtube viewer makes incredible discovery.

Tohkare (Tokahle) People – Youtube viewer makes incredible discovery.

If readers have seen Part One on the Georgia Petroglyphs,  you probably remember the Tokare, a branch of the Uchee, who were the ancestors of the Tokase-Creeks and Tokhapasi (Tuckabatchee) Creeks.  Their name  They also founded the Overhill Cherokee town of Toqua and the Lower Cherokee town of Toccoa.  They were known as the Hogalogee to the Shawnee and Algonquians.  A tribe with an identical name were the elite in Ireland and apparently, Iberia.  Tocari was also their name in Latin.  In Irish Gaelic their name means “Principal Kingdom or Nation.”   In Gallic France and in Greek, they were known as the Tocaroi.  “Re” was the Irish word for a kingdom, while “roi” was the Gallic & Greek word for a kingdom. The following question was sent to me by a viewer after he watched Part One of the Petroglyphs of Georgia. 

K GN
Do you think that Tokah-re is related to Tocharian? They discovered many red headed Caucasoid mummies wearing tartan clothing in the Tamarin Basin, in Xinjiang China. They claim they are Tocharians.

I immediate looked up “Tocharian” and learned the ethnic name was coined by a German ethnologist for a nomadic Indo-European tribe, which eventually occupied the northwestern edge of China.  They called themselves Tokahri . . .  the same name as the elite people of Ireland and the Highland Uchee in the Southeastern United States.  There must be a connection.  Today we know them as the “White Chinese,” since they have very little Eastern Asiatic DNA.  The video from which the photo above was made seemed out in lala land.  The girl looked like she should be speaking Gaelic Irish or Norwegian, but she spoke Mandarin Chinese to the TV news reporter.  Her costume looks like it belongs to one of the Baltic or Slavic nations.  Her ancestors language became extinct around 900 AD.   I strongly suspect that it was an archaic form of Gaelic.

By the way,  I just realized that that the horrific explosions of ground lightning, which I experienced in early July 2019,  killed all the yellow jackets and moles in my property.   There is a positive aspect to everything that happens.   LOL

 

 

 

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Richard Thornton is a professional architect, city planner, author and museum exhibit designer-builder. He is today considered one of the nation’s leading experts on the Southeastern Indians. However, that was not always the case. While at Georgia Tech Richard was the first winner of the Barrett Fellowship, which enabled him to study Mesoamerican architecture and culture in Mexico under the auspices of the Institutio Nacional de Antropoligia e Historia. Dr. Roman Piňa-Chan, the famous archaeologist and director of the Museo Nacional de Antropologia, was his fellowship coordinator. For decades afterward, he lectured at universities and professional societies around the Southeast on Mesoamerican architecture, while knowing very little about his own Creek heritage. Then he was hired to carry out projects for the Muscogee-Creek Nation in Oklahoma. The rest is history. Richard is the Tribal Historic Preservation Officer for the KVWETV (Coweta) Creek Tribe and a member of the Perdido Bay Creek Tribe. In 2009 he was the architect for Oklahoma’s Trail of Tears Memorial at Council Oak Park in Tulsa. He is the president of the Apalache Foundation, which is sponsoring research into the advanced indigenous societies of the Lower Southeast.

23 Comments

  1. markveale@hotmail.com'

    Richard, Chinese fireworks in 16th century Virginia reported? Yes.. someone still could make those fireworks from China!! The Tokah-re / Togar people.

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    • The Spanish did attempt to colonize as far north as Virginia in the 1500s. All white men in the mission were killed by the Powhatans.

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      • markveale@hotmail.com'

        Richard, Another connection to the coastal area of Asia minor: Tocharian “Carians” they were known as Sea raiders in the late bronze age attacking the ships carrying copper to the Bronze age kingdom of Egypt. Ancient Achaeans…Apalachi? connection not out of the question anymore.

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        • Apalachi is a English word. The indigenous word is Aparasi. Which means From Ocean – Descendants of.

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          • A means “from”. Para or pala means either “ocean” or the “Upper Amazon Basin” – depending on the accent. “Si” means “descendants of” but was often written as “che” by Europeans.

  2. pres@gloriafarley.com'

    There has been other sorts of evidence uncovered that Celtic-related peoples headed east. Not that this has made any impact on academia.

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  3. urisahatu@yahoo.com'

    Richard T., Hope all is well after your lightning incident. The still-picture of the Tocharian (Tokahri) girl could (is?) be a confirmation (proof?) on a theory I posted in a comment on one of your POOF posts (Video: Commander Spock of Star Trek tells the story of Atlantis – Juli 9, 2018).

    Link (comment – August 1, 2018 – Video: Commander Spock of Star Trek tells the story of Atlantis – Juli 9, 2018):
    https://peopleofonefire.com/video-commander-spock-of-star-trek-tells-the-story-of-atlantis.html

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  4. adamfreeman1861@gmail.com'

    When the Assyrians conquered Israel and most of Judah (except for the area around Jerusalem), they carried off many of the 14 Tribes of Israel to the Caspian Sea area. These People migrated over the Caucasus Mountains and around the Caspian Sea area into the “Asian” Plains. Yes, I am referring to the so-called “Lost Tribes of Israel”.

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    • Your information has been backed up by archaeology and genetics. It is not a theory. I saw the fascinating story on a BBC documentary. Of course, some Hebrew families spread all over the know world.

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      • adamfreeman1861@gmail.com'

        When people ask me how we “White People” came to be known as “Caucasians”, I tell them that our Israelite ancestors migrated over the Caucasus Mountains. You should see the look on their faces. LOL

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  5. edward.triple@hotmail.com'

    Tocharians were already in western China around 1800BC when the bronze age was really picking up steam. Note the conical hats and red hair. The mummies they found are in a remarkable state of preservation.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarim_mummies

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  6. jesstowns@gmail.com'

    More info on possible Irish, Phoenician, and Tribe of Dan connections in case you haven’t already seen this:

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      • I agree . . . very similar. It might be a dance inherited from the Phoenicians, who traded regularly with the Irish and British.

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      • pixelpal@gmail.com'

        If you check out old Phoenician Inscriptions (or Punic) that have survived it bears a striking similarity to Old Irish. This was the language of Hanno the Navigator (an interesting story in its own right). This language is now extinct but it is said to be in the Semitic language family deriving from the Canaanite language.

        I have heard at least one scholars of antiquity claim that the Jewish people are a subset of the Canaanite people of the Levant. When Christianity began some of its earliest adherents were in Ireland.

        The Irish were criticized by the Pope for being “Judaziers,” that is, Christians that adopt Jewish traditions and beliefs. But, is it possible that, descending as they did from Canaanites, that they would have had similar, if not the same traditions? Another interesting question is “Who were the Israelites?” Is it simply another term for the Jewish people, or was it a term for all of the Canaanites tribe who had traveled through, and lived in Egypt during the Bronze age?

        History goes back a long way. Much of our knowledge has been lost. But they’re are tantalizing clues out there that point to a continuity of our traditions today and those in the past.

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        • Well said sir! As you know . . . if one does not ask questions, one does not get answers.

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        • adamfreeman1861@gmail.com'

          Words have meanings, so we must use correct terminology ( words) to convey correct meanings. To call the Israelite Tribal members “jews” is a misnomer along the lines of calling the Creek “Cherokee”. That name came about when Jerome translated Judeans from the Nation of Judah as “Jews”. Before that, there was a Tribe of Israelites known as Yudahites who named their Nation “Judah” when the Nation of Israel divided. You mention 1 “scholar” who claims that “the jewish people are a subset of the Canaanite people” when actually there are many Historians who claim that the Canaanite Edomites were forced to convert to the Hebrew Israelite Torah religion and it was they who started the Pharisee Judaic Talmudic sect practiced by many of today’s Jewry. It is not that difficult to use the correct term if you pay attention to the timeline and to whom you are referring. True History is very interesting but not always what people think it is.

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          • I didn’t even discuss the Hebrews in my article. You must be referring to someone else’s comment.

        • pres@gloriafarley.com'

          What Christians miss in studying the New Testament is that the Gospel was originally spread by evangelists, who happened to be Jewish, globe trotting from one Jewish dispersed community to the next. There is compelling evidence to show that these Jewish communities were spread through out the Eurasian land mass, from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific Ocean.

          So yes, there could have been Jews in the British Isles who did accept Jesus as the longed for Messiah. And there would have been a remnant of Jewish cultural and religious practices preserved. This is documented in the New Testament as occurring in the early Christian communities in Near East. Look at the stories of conflicts between Jewish and Gentile believers.

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          • adamfreeman1861@gmail.com'

            John 1:47 tells us that The Messiah called Nathaniel an “Israelite”, not a “jew”. History tells us that Galilee was the home of most of the Israelites left after the invasions. Are all religious people in America “White Baptists”? Were all Aborigine in early America “Cherokee”?

  7. jesstowns@gmail.com'

    Richard– I don’t see the Hava Nagila link in my message above, so in case it didn’t make it into the message here it is:

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    • adamfreeman1861@gmail.com'

      My reply was to K GN’s comment.

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