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What would make a compass oscillate 30 degrees to the east?

What would make a compass oscillate 30 degrees to the east?


On July 7, 2012, I accompanied a group of hikers up the slopes of the Track Rock Archaeological Zone.  The group included both local residents, furious over the recent sawing down of over 100 trees by the US Forest Service to block the trail and members of the California Sierra Club.  The site was so overgrown with vines and such nasty things as poison ivy, it was extremely difficult to figure out where we were.  At the time, I had not drawn a map of the archaeological zone.  Somewhere west of the acropolis, I was astonished to see my compass oscillating regularly to 30 degrees east of Magnetic North.  The needle was not “jumping” starkly, but it was not moving slowly either.  Obvious some form of gravity or magnetic wave was coming from the ground or the air.  I have not been able to find the location we were at because the terrain looks so different in the winter time.  Do any you have any ideas what caused this oscillation?

A friend of mine in Lee County, AL, who is a civil engineer from Auburn University, has been after me for years to do more scientific testing at Native American heritage sites.  To emphasize that suggestion, he gave me a Geiger Counter for my birthday today!   It is not one of those fancy ones, used by uranium prospectors, but it will be able to measure ground source (radon),  nuclear fallout from nuclear energy plants and nuclear bomb explosions, alpha rays, beta rays, xrays and cosmic rays for a specific location.   That should be interesting.

Many of you from other parts of the Southeast would probably like me to do more onsite studies in your neck of the woods, but that just is not possible now under the current situation.  I am much better off than I was five years ago, but still have modest financial resources, no girlfriend/wife to look after the house in my absence and a 15 year old car. HOWEVER,  within a 15 minute drive from my house are at least 74 Native American mounds and ceremonial sites, plus a still unknown number of terrace complexes.  Some of the mounds are quite large.  I am one mile from the Arnold Mound, 2 miles from the Kenimer Mound, 3 miles from the Amana Mound and 4 miles from the Nacoochee Mound.  I am 2 1/2 miles from the oldest known Chickasaw village, which contains two mounds and a mile or so from several Uchee villages, dating back to at least 1000 BC.  In fact, most of the proto-Creek towns in this area were originally Uchee Villages. The region abounds in petroglyphs and rock structures.  Thus, I could not live in a more strategic location to carry out the research that I do.  Then we have the problem of demonically-possessed young white males, looking for someone to hate and kill.   I told you this nation was going insane.  We’ve had two mass shootings in two days.   I have to be very vigilant and well armed now, when I go out into the boonies alone.  Hope you understand the situation and will enjoy the research that I am able to do.


My cousin, Dr. Ray Burden, sent me an email from Greenland, suggesting that I check out locations of major magnetite deposits.  There is a massive deposit of magnetite under my feet, which extends over to the Alec Mountain Stone Oval and Arnold Mound.  That explains a lot.  There is some magnetite near the Track Rock Terrace Complex, but not near the scale of what is right here.  Now I know why lightning came up out of the ground and shocked the liverpool out of me.


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Richard Thornton is a professional architect, city planner, author and museum exhibit designer-builder. He is today considered one of the nation’s leading experts on the Southeastern Indians. However, that was not always the case. While at Georgia Tech Richard was the first winner of the Barrett Fellowship, which enabled him to study Mesoamerican architecture and culture in Mexico under the auspices of the Institutio Nacional de Antropoligia e Historia. Dr. Roman Piňa-Chan, the famous archaeologist and director of the Museo Nacional de Antropologia, was his fellowship coordinator. For decades afterward, he lectured at universities and professional societies around the Southeast on Mesoamerican architecture, while knowing very little about his own Creek heritage. Then he was hired to carry out projects for the Muscogee-Creek Nation in Oklahoma. The rest is history. Richard is the Tribal Historic Preservation Officer for the KVWETV (Coweta) Creek Tribe and a member of the Perdido Bay Creek Tribe. In 2009 he was the architect for Oklahoma’s Trail of Tears Memorial at Council Oak Park in Tulsa. He is the president of the Apalache Foundation, which is sponsoring research into the advanced indigenous societies of the Lower Southeast.



    Possibly a deposit of iron ore or faulty (made in China) compass?

    • I checked! Believe or not, my compass was made in the USA – amazing!


    Happy Birthday Richard!
    Sounds like the perfect gift and can’t wait for the exciting discoveries you will find with your new equipment. Be careful out there.

    • Thank you brother! Did you see my update? Now I know why electricity comes out of the ground here and why I can’t find Magnetic North with my compass here.


    Great. Now magnetite under your feet. This just keeps getting better.

    Magnetite is a great electrical conductor and now you know where your red clay deposit probably came from. An old hydrothermal vent. While the magnetite certainly explains the electrical activity regionally, there is something local about your property that induces strikes.

    Things do do list: Dig a small test hole in the damper part of your front yard and check out the soil profile.

    • I did, when planting shrubbery. Black top soil containing some lava bombs – volcanic ash – very hard red clay

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        Hey Richard
        Spell check got me on the last comment. Its the Monte Alto not Alban people. Gotta love spell check.


    If the hard clay underlies it then that area is OK. Areas with fill might be bad news.

    Question : Were you stationary during the period that the needle was moving? If so then the needle deflection can only be due to a shifting local electromagnetic field. These dynamic fields are created by changing current flows, intensities and direction.

    • I first noticed the movement while holding the compass in my hand. We were trying to figure out where we were in that mountainside jungle. I then laid it on the ground, aligned to magnetic north, when I took this photo.


    A wonderful new tool addition to add to your greater understanding in the search for The Truth that’s out there. Blessings on your special day which in turn has blessed us with you and your teaching, words for us . Thank you Richard.


    As long as the needle does not move once the compass has been placed on the ground and given time to adjust, then it’s just the magnetic fields of the rocks themselves affecting the needle. That’s good news… means it should be reasonably safe except during atmospheric electrical disturbances.

    • No, the needle continued to move when placed on the ground. It was only after I placed it on the ground that I realized that the oscillations were regular like a radio wave.


        The needle should be pointing to a significant occurrence of magnetic material, the the magnetite folks have mentioned. And yes, the needle would oscillate due to the tug of war between the Earth’s magnetic field and the local, strong magnetic field.

        If this happens again, follow the arrow to see if you can find the occurrence of magnetic material. Once near the source, you should be able to walk in a circle around it, with the arrow always pointing toward the source, no matter which side of it you are on.

        Though I will warn you that once your get real close to the magnetic source, the compass may well go totally bonkers and just keep spinning and never coming to rest.

        It would be interesting if you could find a large occurrence of magnetite. It is one of the best iron ores. There are people who claim they have found the remains of pre-Columbian iron smelters in sourthern Appalachia. I have never been impressed with their purported evidence, but who knows. Any smelter would be real close to a large deposit of iron ore, due to transportation limitations back then. But finding a smelter, whether it turned out to be pre-Columbian or Colonial, would be a big feather in your cap.

        • Definite Pre-Columbian or extreme early colonial iron and bronze furnaces, complete with clinkers, were found by archaeologists of the Smithsonian Institute in the Blue Ridge foothills of North Carolina. I have the drawing, but the Cherokees are suppressing this information, along with several other discoveries of European occupation in Western North Carolina, found by professional archaeologists.



        I repeat, there is simply NO (zero, zip, nada, nil etc.) chance that any magnetic deposit of any kind, magnetude or proximity is moving that needle if the compass is stationary.

        Impossible. Can’t happen. See or ANY other source of info on the matter.

        You are witnessing an oscillating local magnetic field and that means you have a variable/oscillating electrical current moving through there. Unless the compass is in close vicinity to the current (inches or feet) it’s going to have to be one heck of a ground current.

        • I don’t have any interpretation of what I saw. It was really weird.


    As a surveyor in North Georgia, I run into this all the time. These hills and mountains are full of deposits. Concentrated areas will wreak havoc on a compass. GPS coordinates will still work since they use satellites immune to the declination. Of course old school methods of landmarks and line-of-sight bearings are a great methodology when mapping in those conditions. Good luck out there! Watch out for the yellow jackets too! They are bad this year. I have been stung on 4 occasions this summer.

    • Zack!!!!! Thank you for this information. We need professionals like you involved with our research. Any time you find something interesting, just drop us a line. You are also invited to join us on the exploration of sites after frost kills the yellow jackets and poison ivy. I don’t visit stone ruins in the summer because copperheads like to live there.


    Richard, the old wizards were using that location to levitate stones? That seems to correspond to the stone head works in Central America having magnetic properties. levitating “Vimanas” for the people of India…might have been brought back by Alexander the Great to his library.


    Howdy, EE Ello…many blessings and years to walk your path.


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